ktmrider
Well-known
If you like the results from the original MM, get it. You know all the issues.
Freakscene
Obscure member
Leica Australia gave me an upgrade to the 246.
The new batch are the same sensors. There is no reason to assume they will be any different.
Marty
Benjamin Marks
Veteran
Well, I am with ktmrider. As long as your basic needs and obligations are covered, you really have to scratch that itch. Even if the newer CMOS cameras are in some way technically superior, you have seen the palette that you want to paint with.
Look at it this way: you have maybe five to ten years in which you can buy that camera knowing that there are parts and support for it. No point in wasting any more time. Get on with it.
[Edit: took a quick look at your gallery. Seems from the files I have seen with the MM that the camera was made for you. Nice work.]
Look at it this way: you have maybe five to ten years in which you can buy that camera knowing that there are parts and support for it. No point in wasting any more time. Get on with it.
[Edit: took a quick look at your gallery. Seems from the files I have seen with the MM that the camera was made for you. Nice work.]
j.scooter
Veteran
Do it!
The Merrills and Nikon will do fine for your color work.
The MM will shine in your hands.
Once you get the MM I would like to hear your take on the Merrill B&W vs MM
The Merrills and Nikon will do fine for your color work.
The MM will shine in your hands.
Once you get the MM I would like to hear your take on the Merrill B&W vs MM
back alley
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keith…i vote absolutely insane…and as proof i think you should send me your very idle rd1...
icebear
Veteran
1. Lucky you, I guess this is coming as a general option.
2. The technician I spoke to yesterday vagely indicated an improved coating which would prevent the corrosion with the replacement sensors happening at the same pace. The sensors will be the same but the coating will hopefully give improved protection against humidity.
darya151
Established
beautiful!
beautiful!
Marty,
wow! great image!
Darya
beautiful!
Keith - I had my MM for 34 months but for 4 months of that it was with Leica. Sensor was replaced in December 2012 and started showing spots again in March 2015. Last weekend I got my 246. When the MM works it is phenomenal.
But without a fix for the sensor I wouldn't trust it.
Marty
Marty,
wow! great image!
Darya
IdealCamera
Established
It's not just rational; it's brilliant. M240 is mediocre among CMOS cameras. The MM is unique: the tonality of 14-bit files and the resolution are unmatched. In particular, the MM excels in the shadows, where other cameras, which purport to supersede the MM, are somewhat lacking.
The only reason not to trade the M240 for the MM is if you need live view. But then why not shoot with any of the eminently better live view cameras out there?
Also to consider: your M240 will become obsolete in the fall when the new, EVF-only M is launched. The value of the M240 will experience a significant drop. By contrast, the MM has already dropped and will not be dropping any further, once word gets out that the successor is no replacement at all. In fact, MM prices will go up a smidge (immaterially) once people realize that "they don't make them anymore."
Leica's flagship should be a $7,000 CCD camera with the best CCD that money can buy these days. Sadly, Leica's engaged in ridiculous gimmicks like the M60: a CMOS camera without live view. About as useful as a lean pig.
The only reason not to trade the M240 for the MM is if you need live view. But then why not shoot with any of the eminently better live view cameras out there?
Also to consider: your M240 will become obsolete in the fall when the new, EVF-only M is launched. The value of the M240 will experience a significant drop. By contrast, the MM has already dropped and will not be dropping any further, once word gets out that the successor is no replacement at all. In fact, MM prices will go up a smidge (immaterially) once people realize that "they don't make them anymore."
Leica's flagship should be a $7,000 CCD camera with the best CCD that money can buy these days. Sadly, Leica's engaged in ridiculous gimmicks like the M60: a CMOS camera without live view. About as useful as a lean pig.
seakayaker1
Well-known
I would not give it to much thought, just do it.
As someone mentioned above, life is short. Go after the creative tool that you can put in your hands today.
..... I have faith that Leica will stand behind the product like they have with the M9 if any problem arises. The time away while being fixed would be a drag but that may be years away, if at all.
Good luck with your decision.
As someone mentioned above, life is short. Go after the creative tool that you can put in your hands today.
..... I have faith that Leica will stand behind the product like they have with the M9 if any problem arises. The time away while being fixed would be a drag but that may be years away, if at all.
Good luck with your decision.
Freakscene
Obscure member
Rscheffler, Darya and others, thanks for commenting. I really like that shot too.
Keith, I still think you're nuts.
Marty
Keith, I still think you're nuts.
Marty
phatnev
Well-known
This isn't the film age. Color and B/W are manageable by PP. Be it PS or LR. Getting the MM won't magically make your photos better, plus there are huge drawbacks with the sensor and the hardware being not so great. If you want the MM sure, go for it, but there's no logical train of thought that can justify buying one knowing it will probably fail at some point, versus the M240 which you already own, and can use without issue.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Well this thread has made my head spin. Been away from the computer all weekend at the GF's place ... who happens to have no electricity!
There has been some great advice in this thread and I totally respect the members who think I am indeed nuts! My thoughts after reading all the advice tend to favor the sensible approach .... trouble is I'm not sure what the sensible approach actually is.
Godfrey .... how dare you suggest I'm fickle! LOL
There has been some great advice in this thread and I totally respect the members who think I am indeed nuts!
My thoughts after reading all the advice tend to favor the sensible approach .... trouble is I'm not sure what the sensible approach actually is. Godfrey .... how dare you suggest I'm fickle! LOL
fireblade
Vincenzo.
Been away from the computer all weekend at the GF's place ... who happens to have no electricity!
That evil green smiley says you poured hot wax over each other???
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Keith - I had my MM for 34 months but for 4 months of that it was with Leica. Sensor was replaced in December 2012 and started showing spots again in March 2015. Last weekend I got my 246. When the MM works it is phenomenal.
But without a fix for the sensor I wouldn't trust it.
Marty
That is stunning Marty .... really lovely image.
I really need to know what you think of the 246 when you get used to it because so far I have seen little from it that's impressed me.
One of my options is to sell the 240 before it becomes worthless (relatively) and get the 246 as soon as I can afford to .... but it needs to be at least as good as it predecessor before I'll consider that.