chathaway
Established
ok...I've sold my track bike, ZM and two lenses. I've purchased a gorgeous, slightly brassed BP MP. I am now in search of a classic 50 to complete the dream. This is where you come in...thoughts relative to that lens??? I'm not worried about corner sharpness. I do like a lens w/ a bit of contrast...all that aside...what would you purchase and why? Canon, Nikon, Leica, etc...
Thanks!
Thanks!
redisburning
Well-known
budget?
I am a big fan of the e46 summilux, the 5cm f2 hc and the 5cm f1.4 sc nikkors, and the v4 summicron. there is the 50 planar, but I suppose you arent looking for a zeiss?
I am a big fan of the e46 summilux, the 5cm f2 hc and the 5cm f1.4 sc nikkors, and the v4 summicron. there is the 50 planar, but I suppose you arent looking for a zeiss?
chathaway
Established
budget?
I am a big fan of the e46 summilux, the 5cm f2 hc and the 5cm f1.4 sc nikkors, and the v4 summicron. there is the 50 planar, but I suppose you arent looking for a zeiss?
Thanks...have the planar and love it, but it just doesn't seem right on the MP...of the lenses that you suggest...what would be your fav? ...and why?
paradoxbox
Well-known
Well if you like contrast I think the choice is clear, a modern summicron has plenty of it.
If you don't like the summicron then a voigtlander 50mm lens will have lots of contrast as well.
Besides that, my favorite lens to use on my Leica is the Sonnar F1.5 by any one of the makers - soviet, nikon, canon, or zeiss.
If you don't like the summicron then a voigtlander 50mm lens will have lots of contrast as well.
Besides that, my favorite lens to use on my Leica is the Sonnar F1.5 by any one of the makers - soviet, nikon, canon, or zeiss.
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
I'd suggest, firstly, that you can't have just one 50. I have a bunch (and like them all!) but the two I alternate between on my M3 are the (modern) Elmar-M and the CZ C-Sonnar. I've always hankered after a pre-ASPH Summilux but that will have to wait a (probably long) while.
...Mike
...Mike
kshapero
South Florida Man
I am liking that new Voigt 50/1.5
bonatto
looking out
Well, for a BP MP, only a BP lens will do ;-) summilux 50mm pre asph black paint
Shade
Well-known
Most older lenses are low contrast, if you like contrast, get modern newer lenses..
furbs
Well-known
I got a Summicron v4 for my M4 and like the contrast, it's there but not over the top. The v4's started in 1980 and today's v5 is the same except it has a built-in hood. I have been back and forth with this little lens - 50 isn't my favorite focal length - but will probably keep it. As has been said, you can have more than one 50, and a v4/v5 Summicron would look good on your BP MP.
Jubb Jubb
Well-known
50 summilux e46 pre asph.
I bought this last year and it is a very impressive lens. Beautiful rendering.
I bought this last year and it is a very impressive lens. Beautiful rendering.
rolfe
Well-known
Like many others on this forum, I have too many 50's
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Having said that, if I had to pick one to stay on my camera and if I shot both B&W and color, I would go with the ZM 50mm f1.5 Sonnar. If I were exclusively B&W, I might find a DR Summicron or the equivalent rigid of the same vintage. The Sonnar has a unique signature wide open -- stopped down a few stops it is just as contrasty as any of the modern ASPH lenses. In short, you get the best of both worlds.
Having said that, if I had to pick one to stay on my camera and if I shot both B&W and color, I would go with the ZM 50mm f1.5 Sonnar. If I were exclusively B&W, I might find a DR Summicron or the equivalent rigid of the same vintage. The Sonnar has a unique signature wide open -- stopped down a few stops it is just as contrasty as any of the modern ASPH lenses. In short, you get the best of both worlds.
Well, for a BP MP, only a BP lens will do ;-) summilux 50mm pre asph black paint
Ohhhh I don't know about that. The new Nokton 50/1.5 in chrome looks pretty damn sexy too

New Nokton 50mm F1.5 in chrome by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
rolfe
Well-known
The build quality of the latest CV lenses looks much improved over those of only a few years ago. How does the new Nokton stack up? I recently bought a CV 35mm f1.4 SC and the build quality and ergonomics are excellent.
How is the focus throw on the new 50mm Nokton?
How is the focus throw on the new 50mm Nokton?
The build quality of the latest CV lenses looks much improved over those of only a few years ago. How does the new Nokton stack up? I recently bought a CV 35mm f1.4 SC and the build quality and ergonomics are excellent.
How is the focus throw on the new 50mm Nokton?
That's been my experience with the CV lenses too. Build quality is really good on the new lenses, and this new Nokton is no exception. The focus action on the pictured lens was very smooth and dampening was nice, not too heavy.
chathaway
Established
Thanks all!
mfogiel
Veteran
If you only want one lens, and are not a corner sharpness freak, then as mentioned above the pre asph Summilux is very nice: it is compact, versatile and has medium contrast, so it serves well for B&W as well as colour. It is closest to Sonnar rendering of all Leica lenses I have tried.
Here's a shot wide open ( and with some subject blur)

20124424 by mfogiel, on Flickr
Here at f 2.8

20123724 by mfogiel, on Flickr
and here at f8

20112001 by mfogiel, on Flickr
Here's a shot wide open ( and with some subject blur)

20124424 by mfogiel, on Flickr
Here at f 2.8

20123724 by mfogiel, on Flickr
and here at f8

20112001 by mfogiel, on Flickr
ferider
Veteran
I would wait a week or two on evaluations of the new M-Nokton 50/1.5.
I received mine last week, and it's very well built. Might be the nicest Leica 50 I've ever used. No photos back yet.
I received mine last week, and it's very well built. Might be the nicest Leica 50 I've ever used. No photos back yet.
Ohhhh I don't know about that. The new Nokton 50/1.5 in chrome looks pretty damn sexy too
New Nokton 50mm F1.5 in chrome by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
My god, I just drooled...
Photo_Smith
Well-known
You asked for a classic 50mm but most of those are lower in contrast; my favourite being the Elmar ƒ2,8 the v2 of this lens has contrast, the earlier one less so until its stopped down.
This is the 1950's version.
M4P,Elmar 50mm ƒ2,8 Fuji Neopan 400
If you need a faster lens I'd go for an early 1980's Summicron which is a very good lens also.
I did a test of quite a few 50's and went for this one:
This is the 1950's version.

M4P,Elmar 50mm ƒ2,8 Fuji Neopan 400
If you need a faster lens I'd go for an early 1980's Summicron which is a very good lens also.
I did a test of quite a few 50's and went for this one:

chathaway
Established
Ohhhh I don't know about that. The new Nokton 50/1.5 in chrome looks pretty damn sexy too
New Nokton 50mm F1.5 in chrome by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
simply too sexy...outstanding combination!
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