John - These are the same functions that I cannot replicate in LR or Photoshop. In addition, the Silver Efex Structure functions is also quite different in effect from the LR Clarity slider, apart from being able to be applied to specific tonal ranges....The main Silver Efex functions I am unable to replicate in LR are Dynamic Brightness and Amplify Whites/Blacks. I find them very valuable, used in moderation, of course...
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Roger Hicks
Veteran
This would be ideal, but the reason it's never going to be open-sourced is because the underlying technology is used in Snapseed - the mobile image-editing software that was Google's original target for the entire purchase.
Ironically, Google hoped that they could somehow build a 'social community' around Snapseed to rival Instagram (which Facebook had recently acquired at the time), and since this hasn't happened, my bet is that they'll just abandon Snapseed as well at some time in the future. Yet another innovative product that'll end-up on the trash-heap of strategic corporate acquisitions.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. Aaaargh!
Cheers,
R.
Ronald M
Veteran
A few years back, I was contacted by Google to see if more improvements were required to improve their recent purchase of the software.
Evidently the survey indicated no further development was required.
Evidently the survey indicated no further development was required.
Joe Crumley
Member
Geees, I'm with Larry on this one. We aren't wanting something for nothing. It's only reasonable to expect paying for updates. But that's not what we ended up with.
I'm turning big time Sour on Google when, at one time, I thought they were on my side.
There's no reason they have to lose money on this product!
I'm turning big time Sour on Google when, at one time, I thought they were on my side.
There's no reason they have to lose money on this product!
jamin-b
Well-known
Their original corporate motto "do no evil" got left by the wayside years ago. The big disrupter new way of doing business have grown into classic monopolies with a deep penetration into people's private lives. Bullies with a multi-billion dollar budget to pursue their hidden agendas.Geees, I'm with Larry on this one. We aren't wanting something for nothing. It's only reasonable to expect paying for updates. But that's not what we ended up with.
I'm turning big time Sour on Google when, at one time, I thought they were on my side.
There's no reason they have to lose money on this product!
I'm sure the good folks Americans sent to Washington to represent them are taking care of it though...
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user237428934
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Their original corporate motto "do no evil" got left by the wayside years ago. The big disrupter new way of doing business have grown into classic monopolies with a deep penetration into people's private lives. Bullies with a multi-billion dollar budget to pursue their hidden agendas.
I'm sure the good folks Americans sent to Washington to represent them are taking care of it though...
I don't know how people come to the conclusion that they have the right to claim unlimited maintenance of a software. No software company has to offer that. As long as they don't actively shut down your software they are not responsible if over the years your software environment changes and the software does not run anymore.
If your business relies on a software running long term, you normally pay a yearly maintenance fee on your initial purchase just to ensure that your software is up to date...or you rent it.
user237428934
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I think Google was only interested in the U-Point technology that was part of the Nik tools and was patented. It's an essential part of all tools so making the software open source is kind of a problem.
jarski
Veteran
Ronald M
Veteran
I am a capitalist, but do not believe in predatory tactics. Buying up competition is in that category.
Google is a mighty mouse with too much money.
They may have plans to bring out their own version and likely to be used on phones only, yes I said only. And they will use the tech from Nik to do it. It will not be free.
The way to stop this is to not use Google. There are equally good search engines out there.
Google is a mighty mouse with too much money.
They may have plans to bring out their own version and likely to be used on phones only, yes I said only. And they will use the tech from Nik to do it. It will not be free.
The way to stop this is to not use Google. There are equally good search engines out there.
cz23
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Thanks, jarski, that's good to hear. I think most of us are willing to pay for a new and improved Silver Efex Pro, and DXO has a history of commitment to that application, with their FilmPack products.
John
wintoid
Back to film
That is good news! Coupled with the Lightroom standalone product dying, it means I'm watching DXO and considering my next move.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Never used Silver Efex Pro. I created my own B&W rendering workflow in 2004, modified it a tiny bit when LR came out in 2006, and still use it. To me, black box packages like this are always a liability. I'd rather figure out how to get what works for me with standard tools and eschew any of these dependencies.
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danielsterno
making soup from mud
DxO acquires Nik Collection assets from Google, plans to continue to develop....
Good news! for Nik/ Silver Efex fans: https://nikcollection.dxo.com
Good news! for Nik/ Silver Efex fans: https://nikcollection.dxo.com
froyd
Veteran
Excellent!
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
That's good news. 
nlubis
Well-known
Agree. Good news.
MaxElmar
Well-known
Unexpected good news!
michaelwj
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Good news, especially if they also plan to end up with a real LR competitor that doesn't require a subscription.
rfaspen
[insert pithy phrase here]
Whew! So far my Nik software has worked fine, but I've been scared to upgrade anything...
peterm1
Veteran
That is good news - so long as they make it available as a plugin for other products. For now I am OK I recently upgraded to Lightroom and Corel Paintshop Pro both running Nik plugins. I do my basic processing in Lightroom then click on a button to drop into Corel and or Nik to do anything more complex that is needed. My Lightroom wil go the way of all flesh eventually given they want to go down the subscription route so a standalone replacement will not be available whent he time comes and when it does I hope to continue running Nik under Corel alone.
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