Epson RD1s way better than Leica M8 (v2.0) in low light/high ISO

[cmogi10]

Why take these pictures?
Now you just have a bunch of crummy noisy jpegs to prove a point to no one.

 

[cam]

i do really hate the pissing matches between the M8 and the R-D1.

there are all of two digital rangefinders ever made -- can we not make nice?

owners of either of these cameras seem to be the object of ridicule, bring out the superiority complexes of every DSLR owner out there... do we have to rip each other apart as well?

stupid!

IMO, they are both excellent cameras. different, yes, but i think they complement each other rather than compete. an owner of either should be proud.

 

[jbf]

Why take these pictures?
Now you just have a bunch of crummy noisy jpegs to prove a point to no one.

I couldnt have said it better myself, Carl. 🙂



Why not, instead of wasting time on worrying about noise and other trivial factors, go out and make some great photographs?

 

[nugat]

i do really hate the pissing matches between the M8 and the R-D1.

there are all of two digital rangefinders ever made -- can we not make nice?

owners of either of these cameras seem to be the object of ridicule, bring out the superiority complexes of every DSLR owner out there... do we have to rip each other apart as well?

stupid!

IMO, they are both excellent cameras. different, yes, but i think they complement each other rather than compete. an owner of either should be proud.

I am the proud owner of both. I was surprised by my findings which would mean that I should dedicate RD1 to low light shoots.
I came back only to say that in my original Leica forum thread Sean Reid joined the discussion with some explanations. I am really glad that some real authority cut through all the BS.
I am happy to agree with him. I cut some corners with my quick&dirty methodology. M8 ( fw v2.0) did not improve, RD1 is marginally better. We all crave for a new Leica sensor.
Roma locuta, causa finita.
Ciao, no bad feelings, I hope, from within DRF community. I can use both cameras for most situations with due dilligence.
Piotr

 

[edhohoho]

Isn't testing for noise in images similar to testing the characteristics of lenses? Everyone has their own opinions, and a given lens and camera in one person's hands will generate different images than that same combination in another's. Don't kill the messenger; take what you can from the information that is presented and utilize it in the best way possible in terms of picture taking. Isn't that the point of these forums?

 

[user237428934]

Before you go out: don't forget to pray to the god that controls the evils of chroma noise.

 

[tmfabian]

of far more interest to me than the noise issue is noticing how none of the three cameras used performed AWB equally...each camera applied a different AWB value...granted the setup was altered between each shot a minor bit...with the camera being at a slightly different angle and what not.