eric kim goes open source...

Winogrand spent his later years teaching photography "seminars" to college students. Kim's approach is similar, but without institutional support. I'm happy to see people like Kim make bold moves to skirt the establishment.
 
it might be free press and brand development for 51 so-so jpegs, but at least he has good intentions. out of the bazillions of forgettable, derivative street photographers/stealthy, killer ninjas at least he's making a living out of it and is creating the chance to make artistic headway. envy much?
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
A lot of photographers today, even really famous ones, are not making money taking pictures and selling them. They're making money selling dreams to people with the money to take their workshops, who think if they spend the money to study with someone famous that that famous someone will help their career. It doesn't work that way, and the career isn't worth having anymore anyway.

I love photography, and I still make decent money from it, but I make more as a high school English and History teacher than I have ever made as a photographer and I think the days of me making decent money from my photos are numbered. In fact, I make more than most professional photographers...as a second year teacher. People used to say if photography became that devalued that no one would take pictures, and then the value of images would go back up. Problem is, there are enough idiots willing to give it away forever.
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count yourself lucky Chris..you have two worthwhile careers. I get our point though but don`t become bitter about it.
 
aizan said:
it might be free press and brand development for 51 so-so jpegs, but at least he has good intentions. out of the bazillions of forgettable, derivative street photographers/stealthy, killer ninjas at least he's making a living out of it and is creating the chance to make artistic headway. envy much?
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Envy? Hell, I'd never heard of the guy until I read this thread. He is not important as an individual. He's one of many drops of rain that made the flood.
 
So Eric Kim is doing something hundreds of thousands of photographers on flickr already do. Where's the news?
 
tunalegs said:
So Eric Kim is doing something hundreds of thousands of photographers on flickr already do. Where's the news?
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I guess the news is that like KR we're talking about him and probably generating traffic that will grease his wheels! :p
 
good for him.
If a musician was giving away his music to promote his art and make a living from his concerts, what's wrong with that? or with the opposite model? or with giving away his/her music AND concerts and making a living from ringtones?

On another note, I knew the guy from his gear review never took him too seriously, but I actually like some of his images quite a bit, which means that he may have a thing or two to teach his students.

[edit] the "blood thirsty capitalist vampire" thing is moronic. I hope all he meant was that he's doing ok and asking for more would have been greedy of him.
Selling a print doesn't turns you into count Dracula just yet...
 
Smart bizznazz!

Smart bizznazz!

The reality is that "street photography" love it or hate it does not sell images compared to other photography genres.
EK is giving away what he is not selling. Good for him! He's just being a smart entrepreneur by steering the direction his revenue machine is going to go. You know.. not fighting the tide.
I'm sure most of the folks who go to his workshops just want a bit of attention on Flickr and other online Social Media venues.
Getting a story done about the matter is simply...Loud Noises!

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I think he should stop now ... the world has more than enough street photographers!
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
... I love photography, and I still make decent money from it, but I make more as a high school English and History teacher than I have ever made as a photographer and I think the days of me making decent money from my photos are numbered. In fact, I make more than most professional photographers...as a second year teacher. ...
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A couple of years ago now, when I was considering a career change, I came across the National Bureau of Labor Statistics and looked up photographers. The national average annual salary for a full-time working photographer was listed as $29,000, plus or minus a couple thou.

That's outstripped by many many other creative entry-level positions.

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The Photographic coverage of the world is now by the masses snapping away, and falls within the bounds of the 'infinite monkey theorem'.

Occasionally great photos bubble to the top, but not so many Shakespeares hitting hard with lasting works.
 
fdarnell said:
Not sure how he will make his "enough to get buy on" or to afford some of the latest gear or nice plane trips to exotic locations to talk with people like Alamby.
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He doesn't make money on his images does he? It's just his blog ad/click thru and sponsors etc, + his courses where he gets his income ... who really will download and print these images ... just to generate more clicks and buzz like here ;)
 
Brian Legge said:
So reading this, it only applies to non-commercial use of the photos. I wonder how many sales to individuals he has has a year. If nothing else, this is permitting what people were probably doing anyway. I may have an overly pessimistic view though.
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I had the same view... :eek:
 
yeah, nothing to see here, he's not selling them anyway. this story is just free advertising to send more traffic to his site
 
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