raid
Dad Photographer
Hi,
I have finally taken a look at the photos from our most recent trip to parts of Europe. Here, I have 5 images from the M9 with the 16/8 (in M mount). I still need to download CornerFix or similar program to reduce the purple color shift in the extremes as this lens was never meant to be used on a FF digital camera. I have removed the colors for the time being.
Our flight was cancelled while in transit in Lisbon, so we made a day out of it, strolling in this beautiful city. We needed some sleep and we were exhausted then . The airtrafiic controllers in Marseilles (France) had a strike, so flights in Europe got messed up. We checked oiur lugage into a luggage center at Lisbon Airport, took a cab to "any hotel downtown", slept off some of the lack of sleep, and then picked up my M9 and we walked around a little until we had to take the cab back to the airport to continue our trip to Milano.
I usually stick to 35mm as my wideangle lens, so using a 16mm lens was exciting. "Get close to the subject" ... I heard in my head some RFF voice!
I will add a few images each day, as it is permitted by the RFF site.
Link: https://raid.smugmug.com/Europe2018Hologon/i-ZX7HFWP
I also tried some sepia toned versions of these images.
I have finally taken a look at the photos from our most recent trip to parts of Europe. Here, I have 5 images from the M9 with the 16/8 (in M mount). I still need to download CornerFix or similar program to reduce the purple color shift in the extremes as this lens was never meant to be used on a FF digital camera. I have removed the colors for the time being.
Our flight was cancelled while in transit in Lisbon, so we made a day out of it, strolling in this beautiful city. We needed some sleep and we were exhausted then . The airtrafiic controllers in Marseilles (France) had a strike, so flights in Europe got messed up. We checked oiur lugage into a luggage center at Lisbon Airport, took a cab to "any hotel downtown", slept off some of the lack of sleep, and then picked up my M9 and we walked around a little until we had to take the cab back to the airport to continue our trip to Milano.
I usually stick to 35mm as my wideangle lens, so using a 16mm lens was exciting. "Get close to the subject" ... I heard in my head some RFF voice!
I will add a few images each day, as it is permitted by the RFF site.
Link: https://raid.smugmug.com/Europe2018Hologon/i-ZX7HFWP
I also tried some sepia toned versions of these images.
Axel
singleshooter
Nice pictures, Raid. I would like to see the color ones.
raid
Dad Photographer
Thank you Axel. I am planning to upload a few of the color ones with the "side effects" shown in them. It is not worked on in any way,
Here is one for you:
Here is a second one:
Here is one for you:
Here is a second one:
robert blu
quiet photographer
Beautiful B&W Raid, love it. It seems you found the right way to use such a special lens.
robert
PS: I specially like the second B&W photo!
robert
PS: I specially like the second B&W photo!
Axel
singleshooter
Thank you raid.
This is an interesting effect that obviously depends on the direction the light
comes from.
This is an interesting effect that obviously depends on the direction the light
comes from.
raid
Dad Photographer
Thank you Robert. We had a brisk walk there while Dana and Lina were given some Gelato in order to have them "wake up" from the long no-sleep-night before.
The Hologon is definitely a daytime lens when you can handhold a 16mm lens with aperture 16 due to the ND filter.
The Hologon is definitely a daytime lens when you can handhold a 16mm lens with aperture 16 due to the ND filter.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have no regrets at all for buying this lens. It is exciting as if someone gets a new toy to explore. It will keep me busy! I have to get some software for it if I want to use FF color images. There is no such color smearing with the M8 (crop is 21mm)
Mackinaw
Think Different
Very nice pics Raid. B&W always has a certain aesthetic quality I can appreciate. BTW, that color fringing is wild!
Jim B.
Jim B.
raid
Dad Photographer
Thanks, Jim. The colors at the edges are due to having the rear element too close to the sensor. The M8 crops 1/3 and it has a thinner glass over the sensor, so the colors are fine there.
Corran
Well-known
IMO, the problems exhibited on the edges make the b&w conversions bad too. The tones are muddy and flat on the edges, while the center is overexposed. Corners also look smeared slightly even shown small like this. Perhaps with more intense editing it could be remedied, but that's a lot of work.
It's your lens and your choice, but I can't imagine spending such an extreme amount for a cult lens so as to shoot Holga-esque digital images. But that's just my personal opinion. Of course on film it will be a different story.
I shot some with a Voigtlander 12mm on my M9 and it was about the same. I had to heavily edit and combine exposures to correct exposure across the frame and CornerFix to help with color. I only tried this on an architectural job where I wanted even wider than my Nikon 14-24mm could do. I decided it wasn't really worth it in the end.
It's your lens and your choice, but I can't imagine spending such an extreme amount for a cult lens so as to shoot Holga-esque digital images. But that's just my personal opinion. Of course on film it will be a different story.
I shot some with a Voigtlander 12mm on my M9 and it was about the same. I had to heavily edit and combine exposures to correct exposure across the frame and CornerFix to help with color. I only tried this on an architectural job where I wanted even wider than my Nikon 14-24mm could do. I decided it wasn't really worth it in the end.
Axel
singleshooter
Nice pictures. And an interesting effect because of the sensor reaction to the lens construction.
Could imagine to use this effect for creative compositions once you have more experiences with it.
Otherwise - digital remove should be simple so I don´t mean that it is a big bug here.
raid
Dad Photographer
What you have said is accurate, but it is also a matter of taste which end result in images any photographer wants to get from some lens. The lens is meant for film cameras, but I can also enjoy using it with the M9 and M8 if I want to do so. It is an imperfect match for sure, but then again, it is interesting to me to try it out like this.
Corran
Well-known
Yes I understand completely, hence the caveat of 'my opinion.' I hope what I have said has not offended.
raid
Dad Photographer
Of course, no offense is taken. I was warned repeatedly here and at other website that if I wanted a corrected wide angle lens for a Leica FF I should pick another lens. I wanted the vintage Hologon as a challenge.
robert blu
quiet photographer
I think when we photograph since many years sometimes we feel the need to explore new directions. An "imperfect" lens can help to find a different vision. In this respect I find the B&W photos from the Hologon an interesting experiment, with its own limits.
robert
PS: Of course this works when we take personal photos and not photos required by a client.
571514m3
Established
Raid, I really like the first three B&W versions and think the lens stands on its own, warts and all. Really nice results and worth using as is. We visited Lisbon for the amazing pastry shops and dodgy Fado bars. The lens rendition reminds me of how Lisbon felt at the time. Btw, have you seen or read 'Night Train to Lisbon'? You'll like this lens even more.
raid
Dad Photographer
I agree with what Robert has said.
Yes, it works when it is your own personal wishes and it is not for some paying clients. I have many (corrected) lenses that I can use when I want to, but I want to use this special lens to see what I manage to get from it.
Robert recently bought a Summaron 28/5.6, and he is getting beautiful images out of this re-make of a vintage lens. He could have bought a 28mm lens with a larger max aperture, but Robert was/is after something else here.
If I decide to try out my 16mm lens with film, it may give me different looking images.
raid
Dad Photographer
robert blu
quiet photographer
And if you find it give a look at "Lisbon Story" by Wim Wenders
robert
PS: a few years ago I was in Lisbon a couple of times because of work, no time to take photos but only a little strolling around...beautiful place!
robert
PS: a few years ago I was in Lisbon a couple of times because of work, no time to take photos but only a little strolling around...beautiful place!
raid
Dad Photographer
I will. Thanks, Robert for the tip. Several years ago, I attended a conference in Lisbon, and I got the chance to experience their nightlife and singing in the hilly nightlife scene there. People were singing in the street, and small restaurants had local performers singing traditional songs. It was alive.I also met with several RFF members there!