Exposing Eastman (Double-X) 5222 in the Leica

I set xx iso 250-320 and follow John Carter's developing method (HC110 H + Rodinal 1/200). I think I lost a little bit of sharpness to bring up the highlight.

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ElmoG,
Thanks for that info, I have been searching around for it. I want to use the "H" dilution HC-110 and have several bottles of Rodinal around, so I want to try adding 1 ml per 200ml working "H" solution, I think that is right? What developing time are you using at 20C with this combo?
-Dan
 
So it's been a while since I've shot any Double X and I was reminded about how fantastically soft the grain can be (it's motion picture film after all), especially at 1/8th shutter speed

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The rendering almost makes it look like a lead pencil drawing
 
Tom A said:
Chris, I still have about 6800 ft of Double X in the freezer so that will do for "faster" film. The ORWO 54 is my substitute for Kodak's now defunct EK 5231 (+X). All I need now is some sunshine and warm weather for the 100 iso!
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6,800ft of Double X..........😱😱😱😱😱 What I have in the fridge doesn't beat that, and I am still looking for somebody willing to send some at a reasonable shipping rate. 🙁
 
Just finished running (now washing) three rolls of XX and a roll of TX. Mixed 1000 ml of HC-110 "H" adding 16 ml of raw syrup. Then added 10ml of Rodinal, then water to make 1000 ml. Processed 13 minutes at 20C, darkroom ambient about 64-65F. Did not want to underdevelop on the first go-round (important stuff), and anyway I like "beefy" negatives. Agitation was thirty seconds initially, then five inversions per minute, in a four-reel steel Nikor tank.

Negs look really good! Highlights not blown out, negs appear very sharp to my eye, and have a copious amount of shadow detail. I am pleased. I would guesstimate EI at this development time at 320-400. Have sixteen more rolls to process, I think I will probably continue with this combo, based on what I have seen so far.
 
Nokton48 said:
Just finished running (now washing) three rolls of XX and a roll of TX. Mixed 1000 ml of HC-110 "H" adding 16 ml of raw syrup. Then added 10ml of Rodinal, then water to make 1000 ml. Processed 13 minutes at 20C, darkroom ambient about 64-65F. Did not want to underdevelop on the first go-round (important stuff), and anyway I like "beefy" negatives. Agitation was thirty seconds initially, then five inversions per minute, in a four-reel steel Nikor tank.

Negs look really good! Highlights not blown out, negs appear very sharp to my eye, and have a copious amount of shadow detail. I am pleased. I would guesstimate EI at this development time at 320-400. Have sixteen more rolls to process, I think I will probably continue with this combo, based on what I have seen so far.
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Hi Dan,

Please show us some results.
So the dilution of Rodinal was 1/100 then ?

ElmoG

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elmoG said:
Hi Dan,

Please show us some results.
So the dilution of Rodinal was 1/100 then ?

ElmoG

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ElmoG,
Yes it was 1/100 or 1% Rodinal with the "H" Dilution HC-110.
Will see what I can do about scanning and linking some new images. RFF says I have exceeded my quota.
-Dan
 
hi guys! this thread is so long i decided just to post my question. anyone tried ilfosol S for double X? i couldn't find any info about it. even the massive dev chart doesn't have data for this combo.. 🙁 unfortunately, i only have ilfosol S developer. hope someone could give me some advice.

thanks!
 
tenderobject said:
hi guys! this thread is so long i decided just to post my question. anyone tried ilfosol S for double X? i couldn't find any info about it. even the massive dev chart doesn't have data for this combo.. 🙁 unfortunately, i only have ilfosol S developer. hope someone could give me some advice.

thanks!
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I've developed it in D-76 with success. I treat it just like Tri-X.

Unless somebody else has some ideas, I would say try a test roll in Ilfosol at the recommended time and temp for tri-X.
 
thanks..

the dev time for trix using ilfosol S

Tri-X 400 Ilfosol S 1+9 400 10 10

ilfosol 3 (improved version of ilsofol s)

Tri-X 400 Ilfosol 3 1+9 200 5.5 5.5
Tri-X 400 Ilfosol 3 1+14 200 8.5 8.5
Tri-X 400 Ilfosol 3 1+9 400 7.5 7.5
Tri-X 400 Ilfosol 3 1+14 400 12 12

i shoot the film at EI 250. maybe a 6 or 6.5 min would be fine for doubleX and ilfosol S? not sure about this 😀:bang:


Travis L. said:
I've developed it in D-76 with success. I treat it just like Tri-X.

Unless somebody else has some ideas, I would say try a test roll in Ilfosol at the recommended time and temp for tri-X.
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If they are important shots, it shouldn't hurt to give them a bit of extra development on the first go-round, I do this alot of the time. Never seems to hurt anything and you can always burn through the extra printing density. Double-X is extremely tolerant of overdevelopment and overexposure.
 
alright. i will try to develop a roll first for 6.5 mins.
thanks!

Nokton48 said:
If they are important shots, it shouldn't hurt to give them a bit of extra development on the first go-round, I do this alot of the time. Never seems to hurt anything and you can always burn through the extra printing density. Double-X is extremely tolerant of overdevelopment and overexposure.
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I just called the Kodak Film Ordering Department on the phone at 1-800-621-3456 and ordered two 400 foot rolls of Eastman 5222 Double-X. Paid by VISA, total cost was $310.52 (140.76x2+UPS). This is enough film stock to spool up 160 36 exposure rolls of XX, so that makes the cost per roll equal to $1.94US. Not bad at all for new factory fresh retro motion picture film.

It's really easy to order this film directly from Kodak. If you're in the USA, just call them at the above number!
 
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I have been trying the Pyrocat HD with XX @ 320 as a semi stand development. This is 7.5 ml of A, 7.5 ml of B and 1500 ml of water (Paterson 5 reel tanks). Time is 40 min with a gentle flip at 15 and 30 min. Works very well, plenty of shadow detail and highlights stay nice and clean.
M2 and Voigtlander Heliar 50mm f2.0
 
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After some years i'm starting to shoot again some Double-X and as always i'm happy with the results, there is an evident lack of contrast in my opinion if you think to "her sisters" Plus-X and Tri-X but with the right lens could be the perfect film.
I don't use a lightmeter so probably it's been exposed at 400 ASA but i have developed the rolls in Rodinal for the 250 Asa settings, so maybe it could be better if exposed correctly. I have some T-Max developer and i would like to try it but i haven't seen any example with that developer...any suggestion for the times and mixes?


Double-X - Nokton 50-1.1 - AR a Cinecittà 4 di Emiliano L. Maiello, su Flickr


Double-X - Nokton 50-1.1 - Ugo e Peppe wake up... di Emiliano L. Maiello, su Flickr


Double-X - Nokton 50-1.1 - Stazione Flaminio 3 di Emiliano L. Maiello, su Flickr
 
Thanks, i will develop the next roll of XX like a tri-X exposed at 400 and we will see what happen, i have just print some negatives in my darkroom and they look really nice also on RC Ilford Multigrade, the grain disappear 🙂
 
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