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peterc said:It's OK to get old, Bill ... just don't get mature.
Peter
i'm writing my autobiography - it's called, 'i'm too old to be this immature'
joe
bmattock
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back alley said:in a former life i was a sign language interpreter, went to the local community college for a year and got my certificate and all...
an older deaf person can tell where you were from by how you signed, like an accent.
joe
In the old days of telegraph, people could recognize each other's 'hands' on the teletype key, or so I'm told.
http://home.nc.rr.com/ac4zo/articles/slang1.html
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
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dostacos
Dan
bmattock said:I haven't a care if anyone can tell or not - I'm already fat and bald and as you see, they think I'm a bloody senior citizen anyway (LOL). I just didn't want to *have* bifocals. Different thing. But I have no choice if I want to continue reading, I guess.
I am getting the 'progressive' lenses, I believe they call them here. Hope I can get used to them. I can't wear off-the-shelf reading glasses. I tried them, hoping to forestall the ineveitable, but never found a pair I could use.
The doctor explained it to me thusly this morning - I have astigmatism in both eyes. That means that a reading lens that corrects in the horizontal won't do so in the vertical, so only half of the light hitting my retina will be in focus. And my eyes are staggeringly different, so the correct 'power' reading lens for one eye is not the same as for the other. So of course, I need custom-special, oh-sh*t-oh-dear reading lenses that cost the world and made my insurance company gasp. Common reading glasses are right out.
He told me I'm a unique individual - I see the world in a way different from most. Virtually no peripheral vision (due to astigmatism), permanent double-vision in each eye, failed every color-vision test they have, both eyes bad and neither like the other in the slightest detail. Heck, I could have told him that, but I didn't know it was from my eyeglasses prescription.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
just send your eyes to Cameraquest and have him re-align your viewfinder
bmattock
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dostacos said:just send your eyes to Cameraquest and have him re-align your viewfinder![]()
I've had more than a few people tell me that my viewfinder needed to be realigned. A couple have offered to do the job personally. So far, I remain gleefully unadjusted.
Hey, that may explain my immense girth. I'm not fat, my horizontal alignment is off.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
JeffGreene
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Bill:
It's always better on this side of the grass than the other!
It's always better on this side of the grass than the other!
bmattock
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JeffGreene said:Bill:
It's always better on this side of the grass than the other!
How do any of us know for sure?
I'm just saying.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
All you young'uns... I'm 57 (this past March ... NO ONE ON RFF SAID HAPPY BIRTHDAY, I'M STILL PISSED!
)... I've mentioned it here before, but when it comes to eye care, you get what you pay for. A really good optometrist is worth their weight in gold. I tried various doc-in-a-box types (Cohens, Lenscrafters, Empire Vision, etc.) and none of them were really good.
Getting the script right (especially if you have all the problems Bill has ... sheesh, it's a wonder you haven't killed yourself walking into a 40 ft deep ditch!) is the first step. Then the right lenses, whether spectacles or contacts, depend on quality materials and a good lab. I inquired about Zeiss lenses last time around, but the frames I chose precluded that. I DID go for a high quality multi-coating though, and man, that stuff is great.
We spend a lot of time fussing over lenses for our cameras. I'd say eye care and good vision are a lot more important ... and fundamental to good photography.
Sounds like you're getting fixed up Bill, and that's great. I spent way more than that on a single pair of specs last time around, but then I'm a fashion plate.
Getting the script right (especially if you have all the problems Bill has ... sheesh, it's a wonder you haven't killed yourself walking into a 40 ft deep ditch!) is the first step. Then the right lenses, whether spectacles or contacts, depend on quality materials and a good lab. I inquired about Zeiss lenses last time around, but the frames I chose precluded that. I DID go for a high quality multi-coating though, and man, that stuff is great.
We spend a lot of time fussing over lenses for our cameras. I'd say eye care and good vision are a lot more important ... and fundamental to good photography.
Sounds like you're getting fixed up Bill, and that's great. I spent way more than that on a single pair of specs last time around, but then I'm a fashion plate.
fgianni
Trainee Amateur
bmattock said:How do any of us know for sure?
Well there does not seem to be a lot of activity the other side of the grass, I mean when going around in a graveyard have you ever heard any noise people having fun coming from below?
bmattock
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fgianni said:Well there does not seem to be a lot of activity the other side of the grass, I mean when going around in a graveyard have you ever heard any noise people having fun coming from below?
Maybe we're just not terribly interesting to them. Do you go back and visit your old grade school, see how everything's going? Maybe it's like that.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
bmattock
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Trius said:All you young'uns... I'm 57 (this past March ... NO ONE ON RFF SAID HAPPY BIRTHDAY, I'M STILL PISSED!![]()
Happy Birthday, old-timer!
And I'll look into the Zeiss lenses. But I have to have high-index polycarbonate lenses, due to the strength of my prescription (glass would be too thick).
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
dnk512
Well-known
I believe Zeiss are the highest index and next are Nikon and Pentax... Relatively thin with good peripheral sharpness. About $160+ for the lenses (single vision).
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Scarpia
Guest
My optometrist prescribed a white cane.
Kurt M.
Kurt M.
Fedzilla_Bob
man with cat
The only Zeiss lenses I own are on my face.
Kev T
Established
I'm left eye dorminant and that is the weaker of my eyes... turning 45 this June too.
The only consolation is that every other Kodak SLR/n owner I know curse & swear that Kodak designed that camera for the rare few left eyeders just like me... So I'm happy to have bought that camera despite much criticism of it! It works for my face!
Kev
The only consolation is that every other Kodak SLR/n owner I know curse & swear that Kodak designed that camera for the rare few left eyeders just like me... So I'm happy to have bought that camera despite much criticism of it! It works for my face!
Kev
John Camp
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Trius said:I've mentioned it here before, but when it comes to eye care, you get what you pay for. A really good optometrist is worth their weight in gold. I tried various doc-in-a-box types (Cohens, Lenscrafters, Empire Vision, etc.) and none of them were really good.
When I wondered about the cost of my glases, my optometrist told me that there is a wide range of glass (or polycarbonate) used in glasses, he said that the best of the glass they use in the chains is not as good as the worst of the glass that *he* used. I wasn't sure if he was b.s.ing me or not, but he had lots of literature to back up the point...I suspect that most people know less about their medical prosthetics than they know about cars or bicycles. I wear hearing aids because of 1) a tendency to stand too close to speakers and 2) a short-lived conviction that AC/DC were geniuses. But I know nothing at all about hearing aids or the lenses in my glasses. I just go to the appointed persons and sit there like a lump while they do their things. I'd never buy a car that way.
JC
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Thanks!bmattock said:Happy Birthday, old-timer!
And I'll look into the Zeiss lenses. But I have to have high-index polycarbonate lenses, due to the strength of my prescription (glass would be too thick).
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
As for the Zeiss lenses, yes, as dnk512 said, they make polycarbonate (or whatever lightweight plastic) lenses of high index, so you should be OK assuming your budget survives. Like I said, I couldn't get Zeiss in the frames I chose, which is backwards, I spose. And I'm not sure I can really call them frames anyway ... it's actually a "frameless" set, just temple pieces and the bridge. They're titanium, but I'm not sure that explains the high price. Must be the Kenneth Cole designer name on them. I may be stupid, but at least I look good!
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Get top quality frames, and next time have the optician reuse them with new lenses.
You can save a lot of money this way. All opticians will do it, but they don't advertise that they do because they make a profit out of new frames every two years or so.
You can save a lot of money this way. All opticians will do it, but they don't advertise that they do because they make a profit out of new frames every two years or so.
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Socke
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When it's coming to lenses for my eyes it's Rodenstock with Zeiss a strong second.
At the moment I can live with reading glasses but varifocals are in my not too distant future.
It doesn't matter that I can't read the license plate from a car some 100 yards in front of me as long as I see the car
Reading glasses are not essential yet, but they help a lot in lower light with things like my mobiles display.
At the moment I can live with reading glasses but varifocals are in my not too distant future.
It doesn't matter that I can't read the license plate from a car some 100 yards in front of me as long as I see the car
Reading glasses are not essential yet, but they help a lot in lower light with things like my mobiles display.
bmattock
Veteran
Jon Claremont said:Get top quality frames, and next time have the optician reuse them with new lenses.
You can save a lot of money this way. All opticians will do it, but they don't advertise that they do because they make a profit out of new frames every two years or so.
That trick doesn't work here that I've experienced. I've been hard on glasses frames in the past - I usually end up breaking the hinges or getting in fights and they just get smashed up, period. If the lenses survive, I take them in and am told "Oh, they don't make a frame to fit those lenses anymore." Of course, they can cut the lenses to fit a new frame, but that costs the same as new lenses. So if you break your glasses, you're going to buy new frames and lenses and that's the name of that tune.
I know it is a 'racket' because the frame styles don't change that much from year to year - just enough so you can't re-use anything.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
oftheherd
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Socke said:...
Reading glasses are not essential yet, but they help a lot in lower light with things like my mobiles display.
It's not for nothing people talk about their eyes getting dim with age. I have carried a MiniMaglite for years to look into computer boxes and other things that are not made as bright as they used to be. Strange how with age our arms get shorter too.
Jon Claremont said:Get top quality frames, and next time have the optician reuse them with new lenses.
You can save a lot of money this way. All opticians will do it, but they don't advertise that they do because they make a profit out of new frames every two years or so.
For sure good ones will save money that way. That is where the bigger profit is for eye mechanics.
bmattock said:I've had more than a few people tell me that my viewfinder needed to be realigned. A couple have offered to do the job personally. So far, I remain gleefully unadjusted.
Hey, that may explain my immense girth. I'm not fat, my horizontal alignment is off.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
LOL! Why didn't I think of that?
As to optometrists at chain businesses; some are better than others, just like in any other profession. A couple of jobs ago I managed a two store practice. None of the doctors we had were bad, but some were for sure better and more caring with the patients (no customers in a doctor's office). The supporting chain gets its profits from lenses and more so from frames. The doctor's office from a steady supply of patients and from being allowed to try and sell contacts. Prices may vary and may be negotiable; or not.
The main thing is to remember to tell the doctor what you are seeing. When he asks if there is a difference between two settings, tell him if you see it, or ask to see it again if not sure. That was always the doctor's lament; he doesn't have your eyes, so he isn't responsible if you tell him the wrong thing. He (or she) would rather you take a little time and ask to see the choices again, than have you embarassed to ask, and then not have the most correct prescription.
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