FED 1 shutter repair, possible?

Woah, that's pretty complicated stuff. And I don't have the time today to do it. It looks to be a few days kind of job, need to source for materials. What kind of grease should I use? would WD40 (the spray kind) work?
 
I use 3 in 1 oil and some castrol synthetic gear oil that some one suggested. I found mine at a local bicycle store. Ronsonol lighter fluid works well to get rid of the yak snot originally used to lubricate the camera.
 
TVphotog said:
I use 3 in 1 oil and some castrol synthetic gear oil that some one suggested. I found mine at a local bicycle store. Ronsonol lighter fluid works well to get rid of the yak snot originally used to lubricate the camera.
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Yea, got me a tube of strong glue and some multi purpose grease with change from a $2 note. And I found a can of rusting lighter fluid, so I'm all set.
 
ok, I'm all set to open the camera. Trouble is, I can't loosen the optical wedge collar which seems to be stuck in place and I've caused some damage there already. can aanyone give advise on how to loosen the optical collar? Thanks.
 
alternatve said:
It fails to remain open most of the times. Don't know why. Otherwise, it's a very lovely looking camera.
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Hi

Sounds like curtain tensioning. Anyway, this should no longer be a concern anymore if you're going to open up your FED and repair its shutter. It's not too difficult to do that.

I can send you shutter curtains. Am not too far away, in fact we're in the same time zone!

Jay
 
alternatve said:
ok, I'm all set to open the camera. Trouble is, I can't loosen the optical wedge collar which seems to be stuck in place and I've caused some damage there already. can aanyone give advise on how to loosen the optical collar? Thanks.
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That's normal. First try to inject a small (really really small) amount of oil, by means of a tiny syringe, through the seams between the collar and the body. Leave it for a while.

The tool you can use is a flat piece of rubber. Such as one cut from old tyre interior tubes. Lay the camera on a flat surface, place the rubber mat on the collar and bear on it slightly using one finger. It should turn without much force.

Or you can fashion a tool from a plastic fuse pliers. Never use metal pliers on the collars. The metal jaws will deform them and can cause them to be stuck.

Jay
 
ZorkiKat said:
That's normal. First try to inject a small (really really small) amount of oil, by means of a tiny syringe, through the seams between the collar and the body. Leave it for a while.

The tool you can use is a flat piece of rubber. Such as one cut from old tyre interior tubes. Lay the camera on a flat surface, place the rubber mat on the collar and bear on it slightly using one finger. It should turn without much force.

Or you can fashion a tool from a plastic fuse pliers. Never use metal pliers on the collars. The metal jaws will deform them and can cause them to be stuck.

Jay
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Darn. Too bad about the damage then I guess. I tried grease, but it didn't want to get in. Maybe I could use cooking oil... I'll try out your method.

Btw, someone has already sent me a shutter curtain, but you can send one over as well. My Fed 2 has holes in it's shutter as well..
 
alternatve said:
Maybe I could use cooking oil... I'll try out your method.

Btw, someone has already sent me a shutter curtain, but you can send one over as well. My Fed 2 has holes in it's shutter as well..
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Try "Oil of Wintergreen". Or 3-in-1 household oil. Cooking oil is too thick.:D

I'm currently restoring a few FED-1 now. I should have some surplus shutter curtain. PM me where to send.


Jay
 
Most of us 'crazy';) FSU guys have at least a couple of cameras that we tinker on. Heck, I bought three Zorki 4Ks before I stopped tearing them apart:D Even my Zorki 3 has spent more time apart than together. I just can't resist knowing that I can take it apart and make it better than it was. Just like my nikons, I keep tearing those apart too. Trust me, it is a sickness:bang:
 
Sounds like you and I have the same illiness! I am tending to those bulk sales of spoilt kievs or zorkis to try to test my workmanship. =D
 
ZorkiKat said:
That's normal. First try to inject a small (really really small) amount of oil, by means of a tiny syringe, through the seams between the collar and the body. Leave it for a while.

The tool you can use is a flat piece of rubber. Such as one cut from old tyre interior tubes. Lay the camera on a flat surface, place the rubber mat on the collar and bear on it slightly using one finger. It should turn without much force.

Or you can fashion a tool from a plastic fuse pliers. Never use metal pliers on the collars. The metal jaws will deform them and can cause them to be stuck.

Jay
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I'm done for.

That irritating piece is preventing me from proceeding. Is it possible to change the curtains without taking the top cover off?

Oh the bright side, the B setting seems to be working again. It's magic!
 
alternatve said:
I'm done for.

That irritating piece is preventing me from proceeding. Is it possible to change the curtains without taking the top cover off?

Oh the bright side, the B setting seems to be working again. It's magic!
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Yes everything has to come off for proper servicing. Certain things are done better when fully naked :D :D :D

The shutters must have gotten enough exercise, warmed up and is now primed for action. Anyways, once you disassemble the thing, you'd need to relax the tension and retense the shutter again after reassembly.

I'm just addicted to both FED-1 and Zorki-1. There can is no such thing as having too many of them...:D I keep them all.

Still need the shutter cloth?
 
Try this

Try this

alternatve said:
Yes please. But, as I said, the said piece doesn't want to budge! So I don't know how I can proceed...
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1. Inject a bit of fine oil in the seam between the optical wedge collarl and top plate. Leave for a day or two.

2. When oil has penetrated the seam, lay the camera on a rubber pad (or mouse pad) for traction.

3. Place a small piece of rubber mat over the collarl. Push over rubber mat and bear some pressure on the collarl and turn. Or grip with thumb and finger and try to turn the collar. See attached photo.

This often works. If it doesn't, there's another trick which involves the use of modified plastic pliers. Can't post a pic of this right now, have to make one and my plastic pliers are missing.
 

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ZorkiKat said:
1. Inject a bit of fine oil in the seam between the optical wedge collarl and top plate. Leave for a day or two.

2. When oil has penetrated the seam, lay the camera on a rubber pad (or mouse pad) for traction.

3. Place a small piece of rubber mat over the collarl. Push over rubber mat and bear some pressure on the collarl and turn. Or grip with thumb and finger and try to turn the collar. See attached photo.

This often works. If it doesn't, there's another trick which involves the use of modified plastic pliers. Can't post a pic of this right now, have to make one and my plastic pliers are missing.
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It isn't that part. It's what's under it that's irritating me.
 
Just need a spanner for that - you can easily make one out of a piece of flat, thin bar by filing or grinding a slot out of it, or they are available from good tool shops...
 
alternatve said:
It isn't that part. It's what's under it that's irritating me.
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The same procedure can be used. Or as Wolves said, a spanner or spanner like tool. You can use a small pair of scissors- use the pointy end to loosen the bezel. Be careful though not to cut your fingers or deform the thread or any part of the bezel. Do not use the scissors to turn the bezel all the way, but just to loosen it. Once loosened, turn by using a bamboo dowel.

Jay
 
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...by the way, make sure that you remove the glass wedge first. This can be pried off gently with a small, 2mm tip or smaller, screwdriver. If this is stuck, it may have been fixed with lacquer. Remove or soften this lacquer with some acetone or strong alcohol (not vodka! :D)

Jay
 
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