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It's not all doom and gloom

It's not all doom and gloom

Hi,

Since my previous post I've been to the local one hour lab I use. It's in a corner of a supermarket and the best for miles around. As I walked towards it I could see a sign on the counter with the word "CLOSED" very clearly and got worried.

When I got there the sign said something to the effect that it would be closed one day next week for new equipment to be installed and staff training. So I guess they are happy to make a long term investment in us...

Regards, David
 
Hi,

Since my previous post I've been to the local one hour lab I use. It's in a corner of a supermarket and the best for miles around. As I walked towards it I could see a sign on the counter with the word "CLOSED" very clearly and got worried.

When I got there the sign said something to the effect that it would be closed one day next week for new equipment to be installed and staff training. So I guess they are happy to make a long term investment in us...

Regards, David
Dear David,

Wonderful story! Thanks!

Cheers,

R.
 
Digital is becoming more at risk daily....

Digital is becoming more at risk daily....

The biggest risk to digital at this time, and worsening are:

Iran with nuclear weapons

The fall of Pakistan, and the subsequent dissemination of their nuclear warheads into terrorist hands

North Korea, unlimited nuclear reasons

The continued "black market" sale of Russia's nuclear arsenal to the highest bidders.

Lack of proper protections to keep the worldwide nuclear arsenals (Including US) from falling into the wrong hands, where some might say they are in the wrong hands now anyway.

The manifestation of world wide Electro Magnetic Pulses when some, if not many of these weapons are detonated.

If you are not still shooting some film, you will not only lose the use of your camera's and computers, but also the archives of your images that are now on magnetic media.

Ponder that, and vote accordingly. Involve yourselves less in photography and more in important issues of the world.

Note here, I have added no smileys or emoticons to this post.
 
Bit of a tangent there kuzano, I'd be more inclined to wonder if I can see when my eyes have been boiled before I worry about digital anarchy......
 
There'll be bigger problems than losing digital files in that event, resulting in motivations greater than doing photography. But I hope I'm wrong.
 
I think film cameras are safe. Yes, new photographers tend to go digital, but we shoot film because we feel there's a benefit, rather than for any trend.

Besides, personally speaking, I've done the digital bit, so don't suffer from the 'going digital' quandary that people found themselves in at the start of the digital era.
 
Yes, I realize there will be other issues... and forgot...

Yes, I realize there will be other issues... and forgot...

Bit of a tangent there kuzano, I'd be more inclined to wonder if I can see when my eyes have been boiled before I worry about digital anarchy......

I forgot to mention that if you all want to move the risk I mentioned forward in time, Vote for Romney. The man (term used loosely), is chomping at the bit to go at Iran and the Middle East. I really think it's his hidden plan for resolving the unemployment problem. Deploy the unemployed, or make jobs vacant, to the MidEast.

I've wondered what level of military service is present for Mitt Romney and his sons, and when he takes the country to war, whether his sons will be at risk for service in the armed forces. They are all about the ages of National Guardsmen who have been jerked out of their lives and deployed to the Mid East by the Republican Military Industrial Complex and administration.

Really... ONLY slightly off topic here, don't you think?
 
I forgot to mention that if you all want to move the risk I mentioned forward in time, Vote for Romney. The man (term used loosely), is chomping at the bit to go at Iran and the Middle East. I really think it's his hidden plan for resolving the unemployment problem. Deploy the unemployed, or make jobs vacant, to the MidEast.

I've wondered what level of military service is present for Mitt Romney and his sons, and when he takes the country to war, whether his sons will be at risk for service in the armed forces. They are all about the ages of National Guardsmen who have been jerked out of their lives and deployed to the Mid East by the Republican Military Industrial Complex and administration.

Really... ONLY slightly off topic here, don't you think?
Nah... Not unless you're REALLY frightened of discussing things that matter, as distinct from half cases and wrist straps.

Cheers,

R.
 
Friend of mine tried to sell his sofa on a local listing, but no takers.
Guess this means people are not sitting down anymore.
 
I forgot to mention that if you all want to move the risk I mentioned forward in time, Vote for Romney. The man (term used loosely), is chomping at the bit to go at Iran and the Middle East. I really think it's his hidden plan for resolving the unemployment problem. Deploy the unemployed, or make jobs vacant, to the MidEast.

I've wondered what level of military service is present for Mitt Romney and his sons, and when he takes the country to war, whether his sons will be at risk for service in the armed forces. They are all about the ages of National Guardsmen who have been jerked out of their lives and deployed to the Mid East by the Republican Military Industrial Complex and administration.

Really... ONLY slightly off topic here, don't you think?

Hi,

I wonder what makes you think that "their" politicians are any better than "ours" and I'll add that, imo, they all come out of the same box but are painted different colours and some are bolder than others, or luckier.

Luckily I have some say in photography, to mis-quote Voltaire badly.

Regards, David
 
Amazing that you can buy a Nikon F, F2 or F3 WITH a lens for $100 and change.

where? I'd really like to know 'cause I want an F2

decent looking F2 bodies (sans lens) go for significantly more than that on eBay over here in the UK.

In fact I just had a look at completed deals at eBay.com and couldn't see any F2 with lens for that sort of money either.

Can't see any at KEH either
 
An excellent rant I came across

An excellent rant I came across

"DiamondJammies says:
October 26, 2012 at 10:10 pm

You seem to believe that the problem is one of messaging, that if the Democratic Party can just package the information in the right way then they can sell it to the American people and the world will be set right. Implicit in this kind of analysis is the idea that we’re all middle-class and that the government (or at least one of its main institutions, the Democrats) is a neutral arbiter trying to provide the greatest happiness for the greatest number. This is totally wrong.

I’m not trying to single you out here. But this kind of analysis, so integral to the ideology of left liberalism, is one of the chief culprits in the retardation of political consciousness in this country.

The first thing we all need to recognize is that Amerika is a vicious class society owned and operated by a tiny clique of extremly rich, property-owning reactionaries who care not a fig for the well-being of the people but for the expansion of their profits. Both the Democratic and Republican parties are mediating proxies for their class rule, tasked with the purpose of mitigating class antagonisms. The state itself consists, at bottom, of special bodies of armed men and institutions whose primary purpose is the pepetuation of social domination by this clique.

Without a class analysis it’s impossible to understand the true nature of this set-up and impossible to really change it. One’s attention will end up being diverted to fruitless things like trying to change the Democratic Party from within or pressuring the Democrats to do the right thing or trying to help the Democrats become their true selves.

This is all misguided. This is a class dictatorship. The Democratic Party is owned and operated by this class dictatorship. It’s a question of power, not administrative competence.

Reply

"

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/10/rentier-ceos-advocate-austerity-for-america.html
 
Interesting article, competitive & changing industry. From Star Tribune Saturday October 27 business section:

"Smartphones hurting camera maker Canon

Canon, the world's largest camera maker, cut its full-year profit and sales forecasts as consumers' penchant for using smartphones such as Apple's iPhone to click pictures hurt demand for the company's products. Canon lowered its sales forecast for Powershot and other compact models by 9.5 percent, and for professional-grade EOS models by 4.3 percent, the company said. The profit forecast was cut 6.4 percent to $2.9 billion as economic turmoil in Europe and slowing demand in emerging markets also hurt demand, Canon said."
 
The biggest risk to digital at this time, and worsening are:

nuclear...
nuclear...
nuclear...
nuclear...
nuclear...

The manifestation of world wide Electro Magnetic Pulses when some, if not many of these weapons are detonated...

EMP as a general risk is *vastly* overstated.
 
If film's continued existence was dependent upon one-dimensional decision making (such as the price of getting film processed) then it would have been dead for the past 10 years.

What the digital doomsayers forget is that some of us actually LIKE using film and that processing negatives ourselves is FUN and not very expensive in the great scheme of things.

I use digital (Nikon D700 and Lumix LX3) and digital output is great. I have no problem with it. However, I PREFER using film. It's that simple - and I am not alone. There's a staggering amount of film users worldwide and I really don't see why digital only users need to get so evangelical about the situation. Few film users would try to persuade digital photograpers to convert to film - but there's a seemingly never-ending stream of "why haven't you gone digital" questions on photo forums.
 
where? I'd really like to know 'cause I want an F2

decent looking F2 bodies (sans lens) go for significantly more than that on eBay over here in the UK.

In fact I just had a look at completed deals at eBay.com and couldn't see any F2 with lens for that sort of money either.

Can't see any at KEH either

Keep an eye on US ebay and CL. Lots of deals. Check completed listings. A beautiful F photomic with 1.4 50mm sold for $80 last night. Many F2s and F3s selling in the $150 range. Vigilance!
 
OK, well I'd done all of those things.
You meant F + lens less than $100 ... your first post suggests F2/F3 can be got less than $100, which is what I was surprised about, but that's not what you're saying?

Unfortunately buying from the US can be less of a bargain than it first appears once you take insured shipping into account, plus the possibility of a ~30% VAT and Import Duty being slapped on at the UK border.
 
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