Fim recommendations for grain

[wblanchard]

I like grain and lots of it im my photos....anyone want to recommend some color and b/w film that gives that grain look?

Shooting with my hexar af classic black and would like something to use day or night.

 

[titrisol]

Ilford Delta 3200 shot as 1600 Developed in Rodinal 1+50

Tri-X shot as 800 developed in Rodinal 1+50

 

[kiev4a]

Use Tri-X and develop it in Dektol at about 80 degrees F. That should give you all the grain you'll ever want.

 

[Allen Gilman]

Ilford Delta shot at 1600, souped in xtol at 3200.

Tri-x pushed 2 stops souped in rodinal.

 

[BJ Bignell]

Delta 3200@6400 (or so) in Ilfosol-S 1+9 for 19 minutes; not an ideal combination under 'normal' circumstances, but it works for big soft grain. See here: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007Rm0

For daylight, FP4+ @125 in Ilfosol-S 1+9 for the recommended times, and agitate the hell out of it during development (rapid agitation for 30s, once a minute). Or try it @400 for even bigger grain, dev'd for 9 minutes. Samples here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=377927

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

HP5+ @ 800 in Diafine or in Rodinal (any dilution) @ 400.

You could also buy expired film, and leave it in your car one sunny day, go shopping for a few hours, shoot with the film, put it in the freezer...you'll get grain.

 

[BJ Bignell]

For something a little more "ordinary", Delta 3200@12500 in DD-X for 18m works very nice. Grain is big, but fairly crisp. http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6841

 

[Theo-Prof]

Don't forget Kodak High Speed Infrared film. With or without the red/IR filter, you are going to get some huge grain. This is one reason why I like this film. The only drawback is that you have to load and unload the camera in the dark.

Kevin

 

[fredus]

Allen, I've shot Tri-X @ 3200 souped in Rodinal 1:50 for 33 minutes, agitation every 5 minutes ... This is what I get .. Not much grain !!!

 

[Roman]

Agfa APX 400 or Forte 400 at 400, in Rodinal 1+25.

Also, if you don't scan, but do 'real' printing, don't push the films too much - true, grain will be larger - but you'll need lower contrast grades at the printing stage, which will make the grain mushy and soft; crisp grain comes from printing at grades 4 or 5 - so expose ypur negs at 'normal' speeds, but use a developer that gives large, crips grain (Rodinal, Ilfosol-S, some people recommend paper developers); you may overdevelop the film - that's what Ralph Gibson does to get his crips, large grain!

Roman

 

[Todd.Hanz]

you mean grain like this?

 

[kiev4a]

Early 1970s -- Tri-X in Dektol

 

[Roger Hicks]

Yup, Delta 3200 in Rodinal. Low speed, huge grain -- but even at 1600 you'll have quite good shadow detail and infinitely nicer tonality than pushed ISO 400 films.

Second suggestion: try 'Universal' (film/paper) or even dilute paper developers.

Also try over-exposing Delta 3200 with normal development in anything. I've had some lovely shots on overexposed half-frame Delta 3200 in DDX exposed in my Olympus Pen W. Remember that with conventional films overexposure means bigger grain and less sharpness (smaller grain and less sharpness with chromogenics).

Cheers,

Roger

 

[StuartR]

If you are looking for a fairly low speed grainy film, Bergger 200 is pretty grainy in 35mm.

 

[Roman]

No wonder - Bergger is relabeled Forte...

Roman

 

[titrisol]

I forgot about the gariniest film I've tried in the last years... the new APX400!!!
Or the Fortepans (400 specially)

 

[Natron]

One of the grainiest rolls I ever shot was Ilford Delta 3200 at 3200 and developed in Xtol 1:1. It turned out some great prints

 

[matu]

I find this interesting, I've some Dektol home, I thought It was primarily for paper developement. Where can I get developing times for Tri-X? No info at digitaltruth.

Early 1970s -- Tri-X in Dektol

 

[titrisol]

matu, you'll have to experiment. But Dektol was a fun developer for grain.
IIRC the old Agfapan developed Ok for 10 minutes in Dektol 1+3 (haven;t used this in over 10 years)

Run a search for TriX Dektol in Google, this came:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=009g6a

Donald Qualls , oct 04, 2004; 12:52 p.m.
Dektol used to be the only developer in the Kodak Darkroom Kits that were sold to consumers in the 1950s and 1960s. It works fine for film, though if you shoot 35 mm you'll find the grain excessive (as already mentioned). You can get "normal" speed and process times by diluting, of course; common dilution for paper is 1:2 or 1:3, and I think I recall (this was 30+ years ago, and I did it one time only) for Verichrome Pan I used it diluted 1:4 or 1:6 with a process time of around ten minutes at 68 F, twirl-stick agitation five seconds every 30. If I were doing it now, I'd change to inversion agitation, five seconds every minute, and possibly add a minute or two to compensate for the reduced agitation, but I'd have to do some test rolls to get the dilution and time right.

If there were only one developer in the world, I'd have to ask for either HC-110 (which can be used as a paper developer, at Dilution A) or Dektol (I shoot mostly medium and large format anyway, so grain isn't that big a deal). Either one will do pretty nearly anything you ask of it.

 

[kbg32]

Get a half frame camera and use high speed film.