Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Maybe, maybe not.
Its not the same exact glass.
Stephen
Tom Abrahamsson said earlier in this thread that it was the same optical formula. Is that wrong?
Anyone have a link from Cosina Voigtlander for the press release? I want to know how the two are different!
The most recent product/news related item on Cosina's Japanese website is dated 11th January and is about their participation in CP+. Besides reporting the fact that the lens is on display at CP+, there's also nothing on any of the usual photography related websites. So I don't think there has been an official press release yet.
Spicy
Well-known
Why anyone would think the focusing ring design is stupid is beyond me. I have trouble focusing the old version because the focusing ring is too smooth, the ridges aren't deep enough. The focusing ring in the new version seems vastly improved, very tactile, and easy to find by touch.
tabbed = win. tabless is no good
Harry Lime
Practitioner
Hmmm, how about a single coated version....
sebboh
Newbie
so, i've never used a lens with that style focus ring so close to the base of the lens. is the idea that you should be able to use the fingers on your right hand to focus?
sleepyhead
Well-known
Hmmm ... it does look a bit strange! Seems kind of narrow and knobby.
Design aesthetics must be quite personal, because I also think it looks quite ugly, whilst others on the Forum think it's grand!
Variety is the spice of life!
To each his own!
(er, ran out of hackneyed phrases...)
menthel
Not very good...
I have the older version of this and love it. The only reason to swap would be the closer focussing but going down to 0.7m does sound good...
Leica All Day
Veteran
I want to party with these guys......
Thanks for the info Tom, the lens looks gorgeous...
cheers, michael
Thanks for the info Tom, the lens looks gorgeous...
cheers, michael
ruby.monkey
Veteran
I hadn't thought of that before - all the lenses I've tried with this sort of focus ring have been for SLRs, where such a ring just makes it hard to find in a hurry. As a form of super-focus-tab on a body with no mirror box it makes a lot of sense.so, i've never used a lens with that style focus ring so close to the base of the lens. is the idea that you should be able to use the fingers on your right hand to focus?
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
Me WANTs...Me WANTS
Was thinking of getting another pre asph 50 lux (again)
But really No need to spend that silly Amount of $$$$
The Nokton has its own 'Special' look & quite similar in Glow to the pre asph lux
Now I know what I want for my B- Day,,,
Two of my Favorite shots with the Nokton LTM
Alone... by helenhill_HH, on Flickr
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/for...lenartemishill/]helenhill_HH[/url], on Flickr
Is this Destiny or Fate...choose your Card,choose your Saint by helenhill_HH, on Flickr
Was thinking of getting another pre asph 50 lux (again)
But really No need to spend that silly Amount of $$$$
The Nokton has its own 'Special' look & quite similar in Glow to the pre asph lux
Now I know what I want for my B- Day,,,
Two of my Favorite shots with the Nokton LTM

Alone... by helenhill_HH, on Flickr
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/for...lenartemishill/]helenhill_HH[/url], on Flickr

Is this Destiny or Fate...choose your Card,choose your Saint by helenhill_HH, on Flickr
Frontman
Well-known
I have been using an LTM Nokton for about a year now in place of my Summicron and Summilux lenses, and I think it is the best performer of the three. My 50/1.1 Nokton was a disappointment, but so far I love the 1.5. I will probably buy one of these when they become available.
John Cox
Member
Anyone have a link from Cosina Voigtlander for the press release? I want to know how the two are different!
I think this is a copy of the Prominent design from the 1950's (http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Prominent_(35mm) ) The 50 1.5 was a gem of the time and very few made it onto M/LTM bodies. I think the current Nokton is a different design.
furcafe
Veteran
I don't think so, just copying what the original (German) Voitglander 50/1.5 Nokton looked like in the 1950s (see the links above in other posts). Though the 1950s LTM Nokton's scallped ring is very distinctive, most RF lenses have the focus ring or tab pretty close to the camera body & the aperture ring towards the front of the lens. I think it was certain SLR systems, like the Nikon F series, that reversed things, i.e., moved the focus rings towards the front of the lens & have aperture rings in the back in order (next to the body) to engage w/the primitive meters that used to be built into the prism heads.
I have the original '50s lens, BTW, & it's just as easy to focus (w/the left hand, of course) as any other small lens w/a focus ring from that time period.
I have the original '50s lens, BTW, & it's just as easy to focus (w/the left hand, of course) as any other small lens w/a focus ring from that time period.
so, i've never used a lens with that style focus ring so close to the base of the lens. is the idea that you should be able to use the fingers on your right hand to focus?
furcafe
Veteran
External copy of the LTM version of the original Nokton. The optics will probably be based on, if not identical to, the 1990s Nokton w/aspherical elements, etc., as Tom A. mentioned. Would be cool, though, if they could update the original optical design (pretty sure nobody's ever done it).
I think this is a copy of the Prominent design from the 1950's (http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Prominent_(35mm) ) The 50 1.5 was a gem of the time and very few made it onto M/LTM bodies. I think the current Nokton is a different design.
NazgulKing
Established
Hopefully, the micro contrast is improved over the last model, just as the VC 35/1.2 version II is better in that respect compared to version 1.
TKH
Well-known
I hope not.
That would mean also a lack of bookeh. As it is in the 35 1.2 case.
That would mean also a lack of bookeh. As it is in the 35 1.2 case.
Austerby
Well-known
I've been through virtually all the M-mount 50mm lenses on the market, but the 50/1.5 Nokton has always been a big gap. I've been toying with getting one for a while now: this has decided the issue for me. The chrome one willl look stunning on my M3.
leicashot
Well-known
Finally, now all we need is a Zeiss 35/1.4 ZM that performs like the Nokton 35/1.2 II in a much smaller size, and I'll be a happy boy.
kshapero
South Florida Man
What a beauty. I will be saving up for the silver one. Will look so nice on my M3.
pgmj
Member
Ah, finally 0.7m close focus! My only gripe with the LTM version is the 0.9m close focus. It was annoying on the M8 and even more so on the M9. Apart from that I am extremely happy with the lens, so this is very good news! 
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