k__43
Registered Film User
Sounds like you're in Europe. Did you think of Polypan F? Cheap but not nasty. Has a lot of ardent followers.
Nice grain and sharpness, tones are ok too but the halos around the highlights are annoying.
znapper
Well-known
Some find the halos one of the things that make polypan worth shooting, just saying 
Some even cram tin-foil into their camera to exaggerate the effect. ^^
Polypan can he had via eBay, so this isn't necessarily a "European only film".
I have 90meters in bulk in the freezer myself, pulled out around 30 meters of it into my bulk-loader but I must admit that I haven't really shot a lot of it, it's surprisingly grainy for such a low-iso film.
Some even cram tin-foil into their camera to exaggerate the effect. ^^
Polypan can he had via eBay, so this isn't necessarily a "European only film".
I have 90meters in bulk in the freezer myself, pulled out around 30 meters of it into my bulk-loader but I must admit that I haven't really shot a lot of it, it's surprisingly grainy for such a low-iso film.
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
here's something i shot last saturday,
with a summaron lens with polypan f
exposed at 100 and accidentally overdeveloped.
with a summaron lens with polypan f
exposed at 100 and accidentally overdeveloped.

newtorf
Established
I like the halos actually. You get "Leica glow" without using expensive Leica glasses. ;-)
Nice grain and sharpness, tones are ok too but the halos around the highlights are annoying.
Takkun
Ian M.
Acros is my go-to for slow speed, because it scans VERY well (as proven above), and that it's got just a touch of smooth grain to it; TMax 100 is too fine grained for me, though I like it at 400.
And, also as mentioned, it's not sold bulk anymore. I'd say Pan F is your best bet (it was $53 a roll at my local shop when I checked yesterday), or look at what ADOX is offering.
And, also as mentioned, it's not sold bulk anymore. I'd say Pan F is your best bet (it was $53 a roll at my local shop when I checked yesterday), or look at what ADOX is offering.
Fotohuis
Well-known
Rollei Retro 80S on E.I. 32 in CG-512/RLS has extremely fine grain. Even finer grain then any combination with Pan F+ which has a minor good latent stability too. Last batches of Pan F+ had a higher base fog too. Retro S films have a Clear Polyester layer with a very low base fog. The disadvantage is the light piping effect when changing the film in sun light. So change in subdue light when working with Clear Polyester 35mm films.
_lou_
Established
Just a follow up post, and many thanks for all suggestions posted here.
I have finally settled on FP4+, which gives acceptable grain, relatively cheap price, and a very natural look, and scans pretty well also. More pictures coming up next...
I have finally settled on FP4+, which gives acceptable grain, relatively cheap price, and a very natural look, and scans pretty well also. More pictures coming up next...
gb hill
Veteran
Ilford Perceptol is one of the best fine grain developers I've used. This is Perceptol 1+1 & Tri-X.

_lou_
Established
I read on some web site that perceptol imposes a full stop overexposure (effectively turning your iso 100 into iso 50, in which conditions there is no wonder if the grain is finer). Do you use it that way ?
rolfe
Well-known
ORWO UN54 is in the same grain ballpark as APX100 or FP4+. I've tried several developers, but Beutler is my favorite @7min, 20 deg C, 1:1:10. Available in 100 or 400 foot loads.

Patio Furniture by rolfe, on Flickr

Patio Furniture by rolfe, on Flickr
_lou_
Established
I just ordered some Ilford DD-X which is the recommended developer by Ilford for FP4+.
I had never heard of ORWO film, I never saw it on sale in Europe.
I had never heard of ORWO film, I never saw it on sale in Europe.
Ronald M
Veteran
Pan F + is in stock at B&H $51 for 100 feet.
I use T Max 100 in D76 1:1 Delta 100 and Has more character, not so fine grain , again D76 1:1
I mix D76 myself a liter at a time.
Tri x and D76 is a long time favorite for those who do not require such fine grain.
The best way to get away from grain is a decent digital camera. Nikon D800 You can add grain back to taste. Use blend if to keep it from shadows and highlights. Add a curve to make it look like film. You will not see a difference.
I use T Max 100 in D76 1:1 Delta 100 and Has more character, not so fine grain , again D76 1:1
I mix D76 myself a liter at a time.
Tri x and D76 is a long time favorite for those who do not require such fine grain.
The best way to get away from grain is a decent digital camera. Nikon D800 You can add grain back to taste. Use blend if to keep it from shadows and highlights. Add a curve to make it look like film. You will not see a difference.
Colin Corneau
Colin Corneau
Never quite understood the thinking behind digital gimmicks to "make it look like film"...shoot film to look like film.
TMax 100 is a great choice, as is PanF+. Really, all the choices illustrated here will do that -- your taste and its availability where you are will make the decision, I think.
TMax 100 is a great choice, as is PanF+. Really, all the choices illustrated here will do that -- your taste and its availability where you are will make the decision, I think.
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