Flatbed vs. dedicated film scanning

rayfoxlee

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Hi everyone!

I would be really grateful for some thoughts from the membership on what seems to be a very knotty problem - at least it is to me!

I use both 35mm and 6x6 (and 6x4.5) cameras and, until recently, left my serious scanning to 6x6 negs on my now rather old Epson Perfection 2450 scanner - which is surprisingly good up to A4 (which is as big as I can print, although I have had one neg printed to the next size up and the results were superb). BUT, 35mm is no great shakes at all, but just about passed muster for non important pix.

What has changed, is the new 'boy' that has found its' way into my camera bag in the shape of a Leica M2 + F2 Summicron. Time for the scales to drop from my eyes! The quality of the 'cron just amazes me. My first XP2 processed by a mini lab made me wonder just how close I could get the quality from the M2 to my Rolleiflex 2.8F.

Although I am loathe to give up my beloved 2.8F, the M2 offers all the benefits of interchangeable lenses and in a more portable size. I am tempted to buy the Epson 4990 to improve the quality of the prints from 6x6 further, whilst improving on the 35mm output too. I am wondering, though, if an older scanner - say the Minolta Dual Scan IV - may be a better option to bring out the quality of the Leitz optics, whilst soldiering on with the old 2450 for MF. Unfortunately, budget won't stretch to the latest Minolta 5400 scanner, which would be my scanner of choice.

Vincent Oliver from photo-i.co.uk seems to suggest that the 4990 comes pretty darned close to the Nikon Coolscan 4000 but I'm not sure how close the Nikon is to the Minolta.

Leica cameras should have a financial health warning. It's not just the cost of the camera that knocks a hole in your wallet (billfold(?) to you guys over the other side of the pond). All the updating of other kit needs to be considered too!


Has anyone else faced this major crisis??!! Decisions, decisions.

Ray :bang:
 
You may want to look at the Canon 9950F. It will do 35mm, medium format and large format, 16 bit grayscale and 48bit color, 4800dpi resolution. I just purchased one and I am very happy with the results.
 
Ray,
I have a couple Rolleiflexes (2.8E and 3.5F) a couple Leicas (M4-P and M3). I used an Epson 2450 for 35mm up until a couple years ago when my wife bought me a Minolta dual scan IV. The dual scan IV gives much better results and that is how I get my 35mm shots to print. I still use the 2450 for all my med. format stuff.

Don't give up the Rollei for the Leica, I think they compliment for each other well, I've been using mine for some "street" shots recently with great results.

good luck,
Todd
 
maybe try 'wet darkroom' and scanning prints? it's better than any scanner 😉
 
I would have to agree with Todd.. you'll be happier if you keep both formats.. the Leica is a more versatile camera, but the 6x6 negatives from the Rollei are stunning

I'd probably suggest a Dual Scan IV also.. you'll see a definite improvement in your 35mm scans.. but your Epson probably handles your MF negs as well as needed
 
I own both a Dualscan IV and Canon 9950 and am very satisfied with both. I have not used the Canon for 35mm so I cannot compare the two directly, but even the best flatbeds (Epson 4990 and Canon 9950) do not give you the resolution equal to 4800 ppi, just the huge file size. I recall reading a review stating that the Epson gave an effective resolution of 2700 ppi. The Dualscan IV will give you a full 3200 ppi resolution, is more convenient to use IMHO and is cheaper, currently available for $220.00 here in the States. So why not hang on to your flatbed for MF and Buy a Dualscan IV for 35mm. I have no problem running both of them on the same computer. Cheerio and best wishes for the new year.
Kurt M.
 
Resolution is only half the story. Dynamic range is far more important than resolution when scanning. I am pretty sure dedicated film scanners do a much better job in this aspect than any flatbed (at least in the price range you mention)

cheers

nondas
 
While this is an old thread, it is worth mentioning that the ScanDual operates best when your computer has been freshly restarted, or has expanded RAM.
 
Dynamic range issues can be solved to some point with better exposure and development. Of course, if you like to push then it gets harder...and more dynamic range is always better.

allan
 
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