shawn
Veteran
Is the 27mm f2.8 a Sonnar design? It is 7 elements in 5 groups like a Sonnar and the lens layout on pg22 looks pretty close: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/pdf/x-complete_guide_01.pdf
I have had Fuji X series since the XP1 but always ignored the 27mm due to the lack of an aperture ring. I was never impressed with the Panasonic 20mm on m4/3. On the flip side I really enjoy the 40mm Sonnar on the Rollei 35S and the 38mm on the Contax T.
Wanted to see if I could get an XE2 down to fitting in a belt pouch so I tried a used 27mm cheap. Only shot a little bit with it but it gives a feel similar to the Rollei and Contax sonnars. I do miss the aperture ring but am dealing with the dial as it is a tiny, light little lens.
Thanks,
Shawn
I have had Fuji X series since the XP1 but always ignored the 27mm due to the lack of an aperture ring. I was never impressed with the Panasonic 20mm on m4/3. On the flip side I really enjoy the 40mm Sonnar on the Rollei 35S and the 38mm on the Contax T.
Wanted to see if I could get an XE2 down to fitting in a belt pouch so I tried a used 27mm cheap. Only shot a little bit with it but it gives a feel similar to the Rollei and Contax sonnars. I do miss the aperture ring but am dealing with the dial as it is a tiny, light little lens.
Thanks,
Shawn
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i use the xe2 and 27 combo as a daily carry camera...good combo...
i have never read or heard of the 27 being a sonnar design but now you have me curious. tomorrow i plan to look at my 27mm shots to see what i can see.
i have never read or heard of the 27 being a sonnar design but now you have me curious. tomorrow i plan to look at my 27mm shots to see what i can see.
gavinlg
Veteran
It's a really good lens indeed but the lack of an aperture ring and the slow aperture makes it a dud for me unfortunately. Sold mine after travelling round Europe with it - wish i had taken a 35mm f2 or either of the 23mm's instead.
To me it renders like a tessar. Contrasty and well corrected.
To me it renders like a tessar. Contrasty and well corrected.
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i don't understand the aperture thing...don't all dslr cameras use lenses with no aperture rings?
not having a ring is a pita in that all my other fuji lenses have them but it's not hard to shoot w/o one.
not having a ring is a pita in that all my other fuji lenses have them but it's not hard to shoot w/o one.
DwF
Well-known
Sonnar or not.....
Sonnar or not.....
I have the 27mm f2.8 and find it useful for its size, and the quality is certainly there. While I have yet to make a real keeper image with it, I have seen some from other photographers.
I also had an issue about the lack of aperture ring but really it's not a big deal. It was a design decision and a good one to maintain a "pancake" profile.
I figure when I go out shooting, I have a sense in advance what sort of shooting I might be doing -shallow DOF or not, and then it is a matter of wide open f2.8 or f4 (usually the case) or just set it at f 5.6 or 8 and be done! It's like that 21 speed, how many gears does one typically use on a ride around the town?
Sonnar or not.....
I have the 27mm f2.8 and find it useful for its size, and the quality is certainly there. While I have yet to make a real keeper image with it, I have seen some from other photographers.
I also had an issue about the lack of aperture ring but really it's not a big deal. It was a design decision and a good one to maintain a "pancake" profile.
I figure when I go out shooting, I have a sense in advance what sort of shooting I might be doing -shallow DOF or not, and then it is a matter of wide open f2.8 or f4 (usually the case) or just set it at f 5.6 or 8 and be done! It's like that 21 speed, how many gears does one typically use on a ride around the town?
Archlich
Well-known
Although superficially resembles the pre-war Biogon which is Sonnar-derived, it's actually quite a sophisticated design. Similar to the 23/2 on the X100, but surely differs much from the 40/2.8 and 38/2.8 Sonnars on the Rollei and Contax - those were plain Ernostar/ Sonnar.
You never know what the combined power a doublet or group produces without first-hand data. I'd say if you are after that Sonnar look, get a genuine Sonnar. Modern lenses will give you sharp, contrasty modern results.
You never know what the combined power a doublet or group produces without first-hand data. I'd say if you are after that Sonnar look, get a genuine Sonnar. Modern lenses will give you sharp, contrasty modern results.
gavinlg
Veteran
Well, one of the big reasons I got a fujifilm over DSLRs was the physical ring control system - I hate the eos style command dials on the body and feel that proper shutter and aperture rings are much more intuitive.
shawn
Veteran
True, but one of the initial draws to Fuji, for me, was the traditional controls. Would be a neat trick if Fuji set it so that in AF modes the focus ring acted like the aperture dial on the 27mm.
Shawn
shawn
Veteran
Yes, it is definitely a bit different than the Contax 38mm or the 35mm on the Nikon 35AF as shown in the attachments. But there is a fair amount of variation in a lot of the Sonnar lenses out there depending upon focal length and when the lens was built.
I have several Sonnar lenses including the 35AF adapted to Fuji, Contax 50mm 1.5, early Nikon 105 f2.5, Rollei 35S, Contax T.
Shawn
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twopointeight
Well-known
I had the 27mm on a XE2s body, which was very good. I liked using the wheel to focus that lens, a throwback to my Nikon SP. But I sold it. Perhaps if the XE3 gets here I'll set that up with the 27mm?
dixeyk
Newbie
no aperture ring...
no aperture ring...
The combination of tiny, reasonably good AF (even on m y X-P1) and being insanely sharp around f4 or f5.6 makes up for the lack of aperture ring. I would definitely prefer that it has one but it's a mighty fine lens none the less.
damplock by kevin dixey, on Flickr
no aperture ring...
The combination of tiny, reasonably good AF (even on m y X-P1) and being insanely sharp around f4 or f5.6 makes up for the lack of aperture ring. I would definitely prefer that it has one but it's a mighty fine lens none the less.
damplock by kevin dixey, on Flickr