Montag006
Established
Larry,
In life I found out that being a strong individual basically disturbs and annoys people. LOL. Seems part of my "Branding." LOL.
Back on topic. Be a romantic and shoot as much Acros while it is still available.
Cal
Cal,
I appreciate many of your posts, hmm
all of your posts...
How about, all of your posts that I have read
This post was inspirational and very much appreciated!
David
farlymac
PF McFarland
It all makes me wonder, just how long do we have before film disappears? I hope not for quite a while, as I just ordered a Leica CL outfit the other day. I need to start using up my stock of BW400CN.
PF
PF
Peter308
Member
25 rolls of 120 purchased today, fresh stock with 10/19expiry and now residing in the freezer!
kuparikettu
Newbie
There are precedents for selling old coating runs (eg. Agfa Aviphot) years later (last coating run in 2005, sold until now by Wittner and Maco). Some say it is/was a common practice within film industry. So it can be done and I think it'd explain a lot if Fuji has stopped coating years ago and is now only finishing & "ripening" frozen film to get correct color characteristics.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
farlymac
PF McFarland
Only because you haven't been keeping up.
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164627
PF
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Only because you haven't been keeping up.
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164627
PF
I was following that thread but didn't realise it was all their black and white film. So those couple mentioned in that thread were it then?
farlymac
PF McFarland
I was following that thread but didn't realise it was all their black and white film. So those couple mentioned in that thread were it then?
It was Fuji's last B&W film. They also quit making the papers.
Sad thing is they never report any of this until a year or two after they have stopped production, and torn down the machines.
PF
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I didn't realise that. If there is a mod around feel free to delete this thread.
Thanks PF.
Thanks PF.
huddy
Well-known
Bummer. Acros was one of my go to low speed films.
fireblade
Vincenzo.
Ilford HP5+ is good
kuparikettu
Newbie
I didn't realise that. If there is a mod around feel free to delete this thread.
Thanks PF.![]()
Keith's message now makes it look like this thread should be deleted...
DanskDynamit
Well-known
time to support Ilford's Pan F Plus 50.
dave lackey
Veteran
I didn't realise that. If there is a mod around feel free to delete this thread.
Thanks PF.![]()
It was predictable... I have always enjoyed using Acros but after years of photographers abandoning film and not buying film cameras either, the digital portion of Fujifilm has reaped profits. Maybe, like Pogo, at the end of the day, we have met the enemy and he is us?
It is somehow interesting, in a sad way, to see how the market is rapidly shrinking to one supplier of film, Ilford.
While those I have seen in the "digital persuasion" are working towards future-proofing" their gear whether it be cameras or computers, I have seen no move in that direction for film users. So, I am "future-proofing" my film needs for the planning horizon of 5-10 years while enjoying what good things life brings our way, which is not much lately.
I agree with Cal, be a romantic. Does anyone have a guarantee they will be alive in 10 years? Enjoy yourself, life is shorter than we think. And remember that there is no joy like the joy of giving and helping others.
I truly understand that in a personal way through the enlightenment of more than a decade of life experiences. So, while I am enjoying the freedom of shooting digital MF everyday, I am also enjoying shooting 35mm, 120, and 127 film. (I wish I had time to enjoy large format, but one must know one's limits.)
Film rocks!!!
farlymac
PF McFarland
Keith's message now makes it look like this thread should be deleted...![]()
I suppose the Mod figured there was some new information in Keith's thread, so they just tacked it on to here. Hopefully another Mod doesn't take the request to heart.
PF
farlymac
PF McFarland
It was predictable... I have always enjoyed using Acros but after years of photographers abandoning film and not buying film cameras either, the digital portion of Fujifilm has reaped profits. Maybe, like Pogo, at the end of the day, we have met the enemy and he is us?
It is somehow interesting, in a sad way, to see how the market is rapidly shrinking to one supplier of film, Ilford.
While those I have seen in the "digital persuasion" are working towards future-proofing" their gear whether it be cameras or computers, I have seen no move in that direction for film users. So, I am "future-proofing" my film needs for the planning horizon of 5-10 years while enjoying what good things life brings our way, which is not much lately.
I agree with Cal, be a romantic. Does anyone have a guarantee they will be alive in 10 years? Enjoy yourself, life is shorter than we think. And remember that there is no joy like the joy of giving and helping others.
I truly understand that in a personal way through the enlightenment of more than a decade of life experiences. So, while I am enjoying the freedom of shooting digital MF everyday, I am also enjoying shooting 35mm, 120, and 127 film. (I wish I had time to enjoy large format, but one must know one's limits.)
Film rocks!!!![]()
It is somewhat of a self fulfilling prophecy, is it not? Folks have been touting the end of film for years, but it didn't really gain traction until the camera manufacturers got serious about their digital designs, and the technology matured.
Some photogs probably took that as reading the writing on the wall, and made the big switch. Then some had to or were going to be left behind. Others have embraced digital because there are so many things you can do with the image now that were next to improbable before (like changing ISO from frame to frame, and near instantaneous transmittal of images back to the office). Then others find it so convenient to have a light outfit (all the m4/3 folks, and compact shooters), and not having to bother with the cost of development.
I myself use a mix of film and digital. Film is getting to be more of a hassle because due to lack of quality control at my local lab, I'm now forced to send it out of town for processing. But I'll keep at it, because it is fun to get out, scan the scene, set the parameters on the camera and lens, then press the shutter at that right moment. The mechanical feel when winding the film, or releasing the shutter whether it's a rangefinder or SLR is not only reassuring, but can let you know if things are going good or not (anyone familiar with the "Canon Squeal" can tell you).
I'm still buying film. There are still a lot of cameras out there I haven't had the joy of operating/owning yet.
PF
skopar steve
Well-known
Only shot one roll of Acros just to see what it looked like. That was almost a year ago and its still waiting to be developed. I was turned off by the price and lost interest in the experiment. Happy it did not become my favorite film.
Since rebuilding my darkroom this year I'm shooting more film than digital. Still like both, but black and white fiber base prints simply give me a satisfaction digital has yet to deliver. At 65 years old, film will be around longer than I'll be photographing.
Since rebuilding my darkroom this year I'm shooting more film than digital. Still like both, but black and white fiber base prints simply give me a satisfaction digital has yet to deliver. At 65 years old, film will be around longer than I'll be photographing.
Ted Striker
Well-known
Turned off by the price? You prefer to pay more? Acros was the cheapest black and white film from any of the major film producers. All Kodak and Ilford films were substantially higher priced.Only shot one roll of Acros just to see what it looked like. That was almost a year ago and its still waiting to be developed. I was turned off by the price and lost interest in the experiment. Happy it did not become my favorite film.
brbo
Well-known
Turned off by the price? You prefer to pay more? Acros was the cheapest black and white film from any of the major film producers. All Kodak and Ilford films were substantially higher priced.
I don't think I ever saw Acros 100 being cheaper than any Kodak/Ilford film here in EU. Ok, the new stock of TMZ can now match the price of Acros 100.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Cal,
I appreciate many of your posts, hmm
all of your posts...
How about, all of your posts that I have read
This post was inspirational and very much appreciated!
David
David,
Thank you very much. I find it funny and entertaining writing online.
There often is so much misunderstanding; for instance I never really ever intended on annoying people on purpose, and sometimes being kind and thoughtful has unintended consequences... LOL.
My other friend Dave who posted above is around my age. There is an adage: "Wise men never wished they were younger."
My spin is that I don't want to have remorse because I have the opportunity to shoot film now.
One annoying thing I did that disturbed many is shoot film as much as possible when I could get rebranded Acros for $1.89 a roll, and rebranded Tri-X for $2.89 a roll. I concentrated on only making negatives with a total disregard to printing.
I don't post online, I don't Instagram, or post on flicker. And boy did I piss people off. LOL. I got accused of being like Garry Winnogrand. LOL.
To make people even more angry I used Diafine, a developer not favored by many here, as my main developer and got stunning results. At one point during one nine month shooting season I was shooting and developing on average 150 rolls of film a month (135 and 120).
Even my gal thought I was crazy, and would fight with me, yelling at me, "I want to see prints." LOL
Then when I bought a Leica Monochrom somehow this annoyed people. WTF? This too I shot for two years while I saved for a calibrated 27 inch EIZO, a Epson 3880.
When I started printing it upset people because I held out and decided to go all in with Piezography. "No one is going to notice the additional image quality," some one said. And when I show off a pile of 20x30 (on 24x36 sheet) images to a gallery owner he asks, "Why are these images so big?" LOL. Even this art dealer did not get it. Pretty much he loved the IQ, but he told me, "Generally street photography is not big prints." One day I will have a darkroom again, and then I will wet print. Certainly this will annoy people. LOL
I can go on and on, but what ever I do seems to make someone unhappy. This annoying does seem to being a strong individual because I only really am trying to challenge and please myself.
Meanwhile I think shooting film like I do is not only brave, but smart. If film eventually becomes unavailable I still have a lifetime of wet printing ahead of me.
BTW I choose not to scan my negatives. Suddenly I find myself with a very valuable archive of a changing, gentrifying NYC. Also time is the best editor.
Cal
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