not_in_good_order
Well-known
The Target store near me sold 12 exposure rolls of Fuji Superia 100 until late 2008, which surprised me.
In my area, the economic downturn seemed to result in a lot of consumer outlets carrying fewer varieties of film. At the beginning of 2008, the major grocery store chain around here (Giant Eagle) was still carrying slide film (Elite Chrome 100 and/or 200) and traditional B&W film (400TX). Those somewhat specialty products are long gone now. I'm pretty surprised that CVS still sells 400TX.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Kodak introduced new B&W paper just before they pulled the plug, so I don't really trust Kodak to tell the truth.
In the short term it makes sense to reduce the line to a few of the best selling emulsions, which appears to be what they are gradually doing.
In the short term it makes sense to reduce the line to a few of the best selling emulsions, which appears to be what they are gradually doing.
bagdadchild
Established
Noone has mentioned Astia in 120 is being discontinued as well?
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So we know you can't make predictions based on product line manipulations. Business as usual.
bagdadchild
Established
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
Take another look at the discontinue list in post #2
http://translate.google.com/transla...p/information/articlead_0029.html&sl=ja&tl=en
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Sure you can, 40oz. It wasn't surprising that Kodak quit on B&W paper considering the declining business model that B&W processing had become. Unless you feel there is going to be a massive turnaround in film sales, Fuji's film product line eliminations are the predictable result of the current condition of the market for film.
kully
Happy Snapper
Ach, the statements in this and the other forum were not explicit enough.
Neopan400 120 is only discontinued in single rolls - 5-packs are OK.
Neopan400 120 is only discontinued in single rolls - 5-packs are OK.
bagdadchild
Established
"Fujifilm products from your favorite 賜Ri around, Thank you very much.The following products, as soon as the stock of the Company, and we discontinued bon appétit."
Bon appétit? What a nasty way to put it. Fujifilm has been hijacked by digital?
The list is complete Greek to me.
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beethamd
Unix-like
Does that suggest that Neopan will still be available in 120 5-packs and 135 36 exp? Also that the 160 range will still be available, just in different packs? Not sure I'm reading it right.
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sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Not as per Fuji Japan - and it is unlikely that they alter their list within a week or two. Besides, Astia is the colour film with the least reciprocity effect on the market - its long time exposure capabilities give it a market niche unaffected by digital or any other film, which does make it a rather unlikely cancellation candidate within Fuji's arguably oversized list of ISO 50-100 slide films.
Fuji UK have been wrong with their discontinuation notices quite a few times - or rather, they "discontinue" products within their catalogue, regardless of whether they are still available from Japan.
Sevo
bagdadchild
Established
I wasn't aware of that. Thanks Sevo, you saved my day!
beethamd
Unix-like
Fuji UK are just not importing Astia anymore - I spoke to then directly in 2009.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
The ones with a dash to the right are gone without a substitute - 160NC 120 is one of them, while 160NS and Acros will be offered in five-pack 120.
Sevo
beethamd
Unix-like
The list on the fujifilm website suggests that 120 single rolls have been replaced with 5-packs.
This is the article dated 5th Feb.
Edit - OK, just reread. So some have no replacements...?
This is the article dated 5th Feb.
Edit - OK, just reread. So some have no replacements...?
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ymc226
Well-known
Love Neopan in 120. Just bought 400 rolls to freeze. Should last me some time.
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Well, whatever you want to think. If you actually *look* at the list, the changes are 3-packs to 5-packs, 5-packs to 3-packs, fewer 12 and 15 exposure singles, stuff like that. I didn't see any film cut entirely.
So your conclusion that Fuji has greatly changed their business plan and is cutting film down to the best-selling brand is based on mis-information. You can continue to insist you are right, but since your statements were based on a mis-understanding, it seems silly to do so.
You claimed that simple product line changes can telegraph long-term corporate plans. Then stated that Kodak introduced a new B&W paper right before getting out of that business. Seem illogical to suggest that we can all read the tea leaves when you provide evidence that tea leaves are not an accurate indicator.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Regarding Fuji Neopan 400 in 120, this is to what the list entry from Fuji Japan translates into English:
黒白フィルム (Black & White Film) / 120 / [ネオパンプレスト400 12枚撮 単品] ([Neopan Presto 400 12 exposures unit] is the actual article name 製品名称): -> future article name (今後のご使用推奨品) "----"
There will be no new packing units for Neopan 400 in 120, the film is discontinued and already here at Yodobashi Camera in Sapporo impossible to get. Everything sold out.
黒白フィルム (Black & White Film) / 120 / [ネオパンプレスト400 12枚撮 単品] ([Neopan Presto 400 12 exposures unit] is the actual article name 製品名称): -> future article name (今後のご使用推奨品) "----"
There will be no new packing units for Neopan 400 in 120, the film is discontinued and already here at Yodobashi Camera in Sapporo impossible to get. Everything sold out.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Ouch! Precious stuff, huh!