sevo
Fokutorendaburando
120 is on a different substrate (thinner and back coated). As you yourself pointed out, there would be no point in cancelling one but not the others, if they were all the same, so we can safely assume there is a difference.
Besides, the "environmental problems" need not mean the film itself, even though things like a different base etch process or back coat might make a difference between 120 and 135/sheet. It could also be that the only production line that can coat that emulsion to that base is outdated and not up to current regulations.
Sevo
btgc
Veteran
Hm. While plain Superia 100 in my experience is worst film from Superia line, I think Superia Reala (in 120 it's plain Reala, without Superia tag) is good slow color negative.
Regarding environmental issues, I think zillions of short living digital devices are real inferno. Discovery show how many water is used to make imaging chips, add there anything that comes after that, logistics and sales and electricity to charge them including. Digital appliances are real mess for a planet.
Regarding environmental issues, I think zillions of short living digital devices are real inferno. Discovery show how many water is used to make imaging chips, add there anything that comes after that, logistics and sales and electricity to charge them including. Digital appliances are real mess for a planet.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Usually it is not the film, but its production or processing which has environmental issues.
HHPhoto
Well-known
Dear Vicky,
I completely agree.
Fujis Marketing and PR is a catastrophe.
They should fire their marketing people and hire some who know how to do this job right.
Regards,
Jan
HHPhoto
Well-known
Bob Michaels
nobody special
Rather than speculate and worry, I just ordered another 100 rolls of 35mm Neopan 400 (Arista Legacy) from Freestyle. At US$1.75 a roll, it is just too good a deal to pass up. Combined with what I have in the refrigerator, that should carry me well into the fall/winter.
Bob Michaels
nobody special
That is good to know even if I have enough for a while.
I would stock up on 120 Neopan 400 but I see that both B&H and Freestyle are out. There were never any good deals in 120 anyway. I guess I will just go back to shooting 120 HP5 when my current stash runs out.
slm
Formerly nextreme
I read there's an additional anti-static agent needed because of the paper backing, which is the environmental problem.
Cheers
Steven
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
I'm sure Fuji will see the error of their ways after reading this thread and bring all discontinued films back. 
sig
Well-known
I'm sure Fuji will see the error of their ways after reading this thread and bring all discontinued films back.
Easy.... you might offend somebody with an 'uncalled for, get a life, why do you even comment' comment like that
.As for the bad marketing department in Fuji, maybe they were thinking 'nobody is buying this stuff, lets stop making it, let us inform nobody about it'
Bob Michaels
nobody special
I'm sure Fuji will see the error of their ways after reading this thread and bring all discontinued films back.
Pickett, I share your tongue in cheek opinion.
Fujifilm is a huge company with many differing products. Photographic film, as we think of it, seems to be about 1% of their revenues and declining rapidly. Now when you figure how much of that is color, you realize b&w film accounts for such a small number that it gets lost when they round off the insignificant digits for reporting. I doubt if the President of Fujifilm even knows they make b&w film.
Much as I like their film, I have to acknowledge that it is a pimple on an elephant's ass.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
@ Sevo and Gabor.. I once had a tour of the Kodak plant here in Toronto which covered about 30 acres.. now gone. My fishing pal was a "lifer" there. During the tour the plant manager told me that all the film was the same base materials and would be prepared, cut and boxed for sale based on the camera formats.
I was using that information. Now I think about it , that was 20 yrs ago. Things may well be different now and for Fuji vs Kodak.
My "error" on that specific.
I was using that information. Now I think about it , that was 20 yrs ago. Things may well be different now and for Fuji vs Kodak.
My "error" on that specific.
Kristopher
Established
An official press release from Fuji won't end this debate. An "insider" will assure us that the press release is wrong, I'm sure.
And you will make sure to remember film users that they don't exist anymore. That they are dumb for hoping that there will be film in the future and blah blah blah.
Again, and again, you are jubilating on bad news about film.