Fuji film stock coming to an end?

[tunalegs]

That perfectly explains why there is so much expired film lying around.

Where is it? And is it cheap like expired film should be? Or is it expensive, and that's why it is laying around? Because I'll grab all the cheap E6 I can.


I see way too many people trying to sell expired film for new film prices (or more!). 🙄

 

[css9450]

Where is it? And is it cheap like expired film should be? Or is it expensive, and that's why it is laying around? Because I'll grab all the cheap E6 I can.

B&H often has short-dated or expired Provia at a discount. Maybe Velvia too? I've used it; its good. Its cheapER than the current stuff, but that's probably at least partly because the regular price has grown quite a bit over the last decade.

Which reminds me, I just found a roll of print film in the garage which expired in 2003.... I need to put it on Ebay. Its been exposed to 100+ and -20 degree temperatures, so it not just "expired", its been stress-treated! I'll probably get $30 for it!!

 

[Ted Striker]

Where is it? And is it cheap like expired film should be? Or is it expensive, and that's why it is laying around? Because I'll grab all the cheap E6 I can.


I see way too many people trying to sell expired film for new film prices (or more!). 🙄

Check B & H. They often have expired slide film. And it is sold at lower cost.



https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/369450-USA/Fujifilm_RDP_III_135_36_Fujichrome_Provia.html

 

[Ted Striker]

B&H often has short-dated or expired Provia at a discount. Maybe Velvia too? I've used it; its good. Its cheapER than the current stuff, but that's probably at least partly because the regular price has grown quite a bit over the last decade.

Which reminds me, I just found a roll of print film in the garage which expired in 2003.... I need to put it on Ebay. Its been exposed to 100+ and -20 degree temperatures, so it not just "expired", its been stress-treated! I'll probably get $30 for it!!

Yes, Velvia too. Here is some expired 4 x 5 Velvia.


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1462781-REG/fujifilm_16326157d_velvia_rvp_100_np.html

 

[Takkun]

Eh, I'm not buying the theory that they're winding down, or have winded down production. I just checked out their ishootfujifilm site, and between that and the photokina booth, why would they spend the money on marketing expired stock and hiding it from consumers? One would think that logically, if they were trying to move product, announcing its discontinuation would be the best practice. Acros flew off of shelves.

A little surprised Fujicolor and Superia sticking around rather than just focusing on the premium stock. But not disappointed. It's not my favorite film, but I rarely fail to find it at some remote Walgreens when I'm on the road and worried about running out of film. (Sometimes I'll find Tmax at $9 a pop, too)

 

[Ted Striker]

Eh, I'm not buying the theory that they're winding down, or have winded down production. I just checked out their ishootfujifilm site, and between that and the photokina booth, why would they spend the money on marketing expired stock and hiding it from consumers? One would think that logically, if they were trying to move product, announcing its discontinuation would be the best practice. Acros flew off of shelves.

People act as if setting up a web page is some sort of huge marketing campaign. It's not. It's laughable. A high schooler could do it.

 

[Faintandfuzzy]

That perfectly explains why there is so much expired film lying around.

The shops I deal with in LA, Seattle, Vancouver, Toronto and Tokyo have no E6 expired rolls around. Take your vendetta elsewhere Ratty Mouse. It has become tiring.

 

[Faintandfuzzy]

As has already been pointed out, I confused 400H with Superia 400, which is currently $2.99/roll at B&H.

My bad...didn't notice the correction. That said, I recently scored a box of 100 rolls of Fuji Industrial 400. Comeon Fedex!!!

 

[jsrockit]

The shops I deal with in LA, Seattle, Vancouver, Toronto and Tokyo have no E6 expired rolls around. Take your vendetta elsewhere Ratty Mouse. It has become tiring.

But there is plenty of expired film out there as well...

 

[Faintandfuzzy]

But there is plenty of expired film out there as well...

And there are plenty of digital cameras of the previous model as well. Point? I see no expired film in E6 as suggested. Of course, Kodak decided to reintroduce Ektrachrome because it can't sell.

 

[ptpdprinter]

I believe the point Ted was making was that expired Velvia and Provia frequently shows up at discounted prices at B&H, where a lot of us shop. Perhaps they are not as good at inventory management as the stores you deal with, routinely overestimating demand.

 

[Faintandfuzzy]

I believe the point Ted was making was that expired Velvia and Provia frequently shows up at discounted prices at B&H, where a lot of us shop. Perhaps they are not as good at inventory management as the stores you deal with, routinely overestimating demand.

First, B&H has nothing to do with the cities I mentioned. I am using stores from multiple cities...as opposed to one shop. They have lots of previous model DSLRs in stock as well...I guess digital cameras are dying as well.

Second, Ted, AKA Rattymouse as well as other user IDs has a long history here, at DPReview , Filmwaster and Photo.net doing his best to paint a doom and gloom picture of film. Always shown to be incorrect. If the forum here is supporting his nonsense, the forum has become a waste of time.

 

[jsrockit]

And there are plenty of digital cameras of the previous model as well. Point? I see no expired film in E6 as suggested. Of course, Kodak decided to reintroduce Ektrachrome because it can't sell.

Ok, you win... there is no expired film for sale anywhere. Digital cameras are computers that keep evolving. Of course there are older models for sale used. I don’t see the point of your comparison.

 

[ptpdprinter]

First, B&H has nothing to do with the cities I mentioned. I am using stores from multiple cities...as opposed to one shop. They have lots of previous model DSLRs in stock as well...I guess digital cameras are dying as well.

Perhaps they are as poor as inventory management with DSLRs as B&H is with E6 film. Your observations are certainly consistent with the growing trend away from DSLRs and toward mirrorless. Digital ILC sales actually were down 35% in January compared to the same month last year. The downward trend has been pretty consistent for the last three or four years as people have shifted away from digital cameras to their iPhones. Canon has predicted that the digital camera market will be half what it is today in two years. Doom and gloom about digital camera sales is an accepted fact. Yet a niche group of forum frequenters are wetting their pants over the Nikon Z series, the Canon R series, the Panasonic S1 series, the Leica Q2, and the upcoming Fuji GFX100. A lot depends on your perspective.

 

[SaveKodak]

Ah you heard wrong! In fact I have an incredibly reliable source that I know from the darkweb. I paid him 7 bitcoins to find out that in fact Fuji is still producing all their films, including those marked discontinued!

400H in 220, they still make it! Provia 400X, still produced in large quantities. Even 3000B is still made. They are all being cold stored until they Japan Camera Hunter deletes his Instagram account. I believe they are stored next to a stockpile of Fuji TX-2 and GF670 bodies in matte black.

This news was worth every digital penny I spent on it!

 

[mpaniagua]

Ah you heard wrong! In fact I have an incredibly reliable source that I know from the darkweb. I paid him 7 bitcoins to find out that in fact Fuji is still producing all their films, including those marked discontinued!

400H in 220, they still make it! Provia 400X, still produced in large quantities. Even 3000B is still made. They are all being cold stored until they Japan Camera Hunter deletes his Instagram account. I believe they are stored next to a stockpile of Fuji TX-2 and GF670 bodies in matte black.

This news was worth every digital penny I spent on it!

Sorry mate you heard it wrong. They are stored next to a stock pile of frozen twinkies 😛

 

[traveler_101]

What affects Fuji as everyone else in business, was mentioned in recent Adox videos.

Likely many of their film line workers were trained in 1980s and 90s, and having a gray hair now. And it won't make sense for a long training millennials to work after them. While not mentioned in official announcements, its probably contributing factor when deciding further cuts in production etc.

What happens to a business that is selling to a market worth 900 million rolls a year which drops within a period of two years down to 20 million rolls a year? The bottom has dropped out of their market. Even with the increases in sales since the film revival started we are still talking a market that is down 97%. I'm surprised they are producing film at all - I think they do it mainly for its PR value.

 

[traveler_101]

Nor do they have ISO100 C41 film anymore.


Those two along with Superia 1600 were axed last year.


A radical thinning of their product line has been underway for the past several years.

I think you are right, but I don't understand what you expect them to do. They are business - Fujifilm Holdings Corp ADR - and have to answer to stockholders and the banks.

 

[Huss]

Spoke to my film peeps at Samys in LA. They said Fuji is not discontinuing film. But is raising prices.

 

[tunalegs]

Check B & H. They often have expired slide film. And it is sold at lower cost.



https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/369450-USA/Fujifilm_RDP_III_135_36_Fujichrome_Provia.html

Reason I don't check their site: you have to buy in lots of five rolls, and the price for an expired product is ridiculous. Of course - if nobody were buying it, I'm sure they'd sell it cheaper.