Fuji film stock coming to an end?

[Skiff]

What films were on it?

The following:
- Fujicolor C200 135-36
- Superia X-Tra 400 135-36
- Pro 400H 135-36 and 120
- Velvia 50 135-36 and 120
- Velvia 100 135-36, 120, 4x5", 8x10"
- Provia 100F 135-36, 120, 4x5", 8x10".

That is probably the "core" programme which is available worldwide.
But there are additional regional offerings in certain markets. For example North America: Just in summer last year complete new 3-packs of C200 and X-Tra 400 135-36 have been introduced. Printing on it in English only afaik, so not intented for global distribution, but regional distribution.
Then there are still Japanese offerings: Fujicolor Industrial 100, Pro 160NS 120, Velvia 50 in 4x5".
Pro 160 NS by the way has always been available also here in Europe without interruption for years. And it still is. Always fresh stock. Officially offered by Fujifilm Europe.

These regional differences are probably due to significant regional demand differences. Certain markets work quite different. I know from several distributors that the demand for ISO 400 film is much higher in the US than in Europe. In Europe ISO 100 and 160/200 films have higher market share.
SUCs have always been more popular in the US compared to other markets, for example.

 

[ptpdprinter]

The following:
- Fujicolor C200 135-36
- Superia X-Tra 400 135-36
- Pro 400H 135-36 and 120
- Velvia 50 135-36 and 120
- Velvia 100 135-36, 120, 4x5", 8x10"
- Provia 100F 135-36, 120, 4x5", 8x10".

These are the films currently available in the US. So Fuji has pledged no more discontinuations?

 

[Skiff]

These are the films currently available in the US. So Fuji has pledged no more discontinuations?

Correct. No more discontinuations.

 

[sepiareverb]

Correct. No more discontinuations.

This afternoon.

 

[Ted Striker]

These are the films currently available in the US. So Fuji has pledged no more discontinuations?

Fujifilm will never make such a pledge.

My guess: Velvia 100 is the next film to be axed.

Incredible, Fujifilm makes all of ONE negative film for 120 size. That is beyond pathetic.

 

[Skiff]

Incredible, Fujifilm makes all of ONE negative film for 120 size. That is beyond pathetic.

Not correct. There is one on the global list. But two available fresh. Pro 160 NS is currently offered in the markets where demand for this film is.

 

[Ted Striker]

Not correct. There is one on the global list. But two available fresh. Pro 160 NS is currently offered in the markets where demand for this film is.

Last time I was in Japan, 160 NS was nowhere to be found.

I guess there is no demand there.

 

[HHPhoto]

Incredible, Fujifilm makes all of ONE negative film for 120 size. That is beyond pathetic.

Let's have a look at the 120 format color films from Kodak and Fuji:
Kodak:
- Ektar
- Portra 160
- Portra 400
- Portra 800
= 4 films in total.

Fuji:
- Pro 160NS
- Pro 400H
- Velvia 50
- Velvia 100
- Provia 100F
= 5 films in total.

Fuji has won......😀.

Cheers, Jan

 

[jonmanjiro]

Last time I was in Japan, 160 NS was nowhere to be found.

I guess there is no demand there.

According to their website, Pro 160 NS is currently in stock at every Yodobashi Camera store.

https://www.yodobashi.com/product/100000001001219376/

The thing that puzzles me is that it's available in 120 but not 135... 😕

 

[Ted Striker]

Let's have a look at the 120 format color films from Kodak and Fuji:
Kodak:
- Ektar
- Portra 160
- Portra 400
- Portra 800
= 4 films in total.

Fuji:
- Pro 160NS
- Pro 400H
- Velvia 50
- Velvia 100
- Provia 100F
= 5 films in total.

Fuji has won......😀.

Cheers, Jan

Color aesthetics aside, Kodak has a better color negative selection now that Fujfiilm has dumped their great emulsions into the crapper.

However, I never shoot Kodak film in 120 size so it's irrelevant to me.

 

[Mooshoepork]

Last time I was in Japan, 160 NS was nowhere to be found.

I guess there is no demand there.

I was there last month and found it in literally every camera store that sells film.

Maybe some glasses are in order 😂

 

[Ted Striker]

I was there last month and found it in literally every camera store that sells film.

Maybe some glasses are in order 😂

My eyes are fine thank you. I know what I am talking about and you have not the slightest clue about my experience. You are making a fool out of yourself with your unnecessary personal attacks.

 

[Ste_S]

Interested in what markets 120 Fuji Pro 160 is available in. Not available here in the UK, AG Photographic have it listed as discontinued by Fujifilm.

https://www.ag-photographic.co.uk/fuji-pro-160ns-120-5-pack-963-p.asp

Luckily I'm quite happy now with Ektar, Portra, HP5 & FP4 in 120. Fuji's ups and downs don't bother me too much.

Edit - Pro 160 seems available in Japan, at least in Yodobashi
https://www.yodobashi.com/product/100000001001219376/

 

[Ted Striker]

One country isn't going to sustain 160 NS. Expect it to be discontinued soon.

 

[Ste_S]

Interestingly Yodabashi rank their films by best selling, for 120 (Brownie film in japanese !) its
https://www.yodobashi.com/category/19055/34561/53216/ranking/

1. Fuji Velvia 100
2. Fuji Pro 400h
3. Fuji Provia 100
4. Fuji Velvia 50
5. Ilford Delta 100
6. Fuji Pro 160
7. Ilford XP2
8. Ilford HP5
9. Cinestill 800t
10. Kodak Tri-X

I guess the Japanese really miss Acros judging by the position of Delta 100, and Kodak don't seem to do so well in Japan

 

[Ted Striker]

Interestingly Yodabashi rank their films by best selling, for 120 (Brownie film in japanese !) its
https://www.yodobashi.com/category/19055/34561/53216/ranking/

1. Fuji Velvia 100
2. Fuji Pro 400h
3. Fuji Provia 100
4. Fuji Velvia 50
5. Ilford Delta 100
6. Fuji Pro 160
7. Ilford XP2
8. Ilford HP5
9. Cinestill 800t
10. Kodak Tri-X

I guess the Japanese really miss Acros judging by the position of Delta 100, and Kodak don't seem to do so well in Japan

Kodak has very poor distribution in Japan and is also priced excessively high. I find that Ilford film is much easier to find and is priced in a sane manner.

 

[ptpdprinter]

I don't know why people are complaining about prices. Fujicolor 200 and 400 XTRA are $2.99/roll at B&H. They are practically giving it away. Plenty of room for price increases to keep Fuji film viable. Fuji transparency film on the other hand...

 

[brbo]

Interestingly Yodabashi rank their films by best selling, for 120 (Brownie film in japanese !) its
https://www.yodobashi.com/category/19055/34561/53216/ranking/

1. Fuji Velvia 100
2. Fuji Pro 400h
3. Fuji Provia 100
4. Fuji Velvia 50
5. Ilford Delta 100
6. Fuji Pro 160
7. Ilford XP2
8. Ilford HP5
9. Cinestill 800t
10. Kodak Tri-X

I guess the Japanese really miss Acros judging by the position of Delta 100, and Kodak don't seem to do so well in Japan

Interesting. If I had to guess the order I'd have placed Velvia 100 dead last.

 

[B-9]

If someone had a stash of Neopan/Presto 1600 right now would be a good time to dump it. Looking at sold prices 14.50-20.00+ USD$$ a roll.

I got two in floating around and I am going to flip them for some Portra. Freestyle has rebates rocking right now on new Kodak films.

I prefer Kodak over Fuji these days. Pro160 was my jam for many years. Now I shoot Portra 160 and much prefer the skin tones. Have yet to try the new E100G or Ektar.

 

[dourbalistar]

However, I never shoot Kodak film in 120 size so it's irrelevant to me.

Ted, since Kodak 120 is irrelevant to you, I'm curious what film you do shoot. Do Fujifilm's discontinuations stand to impact your film shooting? Honestly trying to understand the goal of your posts...