Trooper
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I'm mainly a SLR and Technical Camera guy. I inherited a great collection of Nikon F-Mount glass and a Linhoff, and have been locked in. I started with an Nikon FE and they seem to get bigger with each model. Even the new Nikon Df is still bigger than the FE. This causes me to leave the camera in the car or even at home. Obviously, I'm missing opportunities with the kids.
So I want to get a smaller camera. The Fuji X series is looking good, but I can't identify any real difference between the X-E2 and the X Pro-1. What am I missing? I'm also considering an X100s, but my most used focal lengths are 50mm and 85mm, so I think it's fixed wide-angle and I may not agree.
Whatever camera I choose, this will be a substantial investment for me. Please help me decide which one is best for me.
Right now, the X-E2 bundle might be my best option. I like the real shutter speed dial and aperture ring (I presume). It has interchangeable lenses, so I can get a mid-telephoto prime. Its a lot smaller than an SLR.
So I want to get a smaller camera. The Fuji X series is looking good, but I can't identify any real difference between the X-E2 and the X Pro-1. What am I missing? I'm also considering an X100s, but my most used focal lengths are 50mm and 85mm, so I think it's fixed wide-angle and I may not agree.
Whatever camera I choose, this will be a substantial investment for me. Please help me decide which one is best for me.
Right now, the X-E2 bundle might be my best option. I like the real shutter speed dial and aperture ring (I presume). It has interchangeable lenses, so I can get a mid-telephoto prime. Its a lot smaller than an SLR.
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you have not looked all that closely…the xpro has an evf and an optical finder…a huge deal for many folks!
image wise all the fujis look good.
image wise all the fujis look good.
daveleo
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You can compare camera sizes here: http://camerasize.com/compare/
As Joe suggested, you need to do more homework on the Xpro details.
BHPhotovideo has a $699 deal on an X-E1 kit with the 18-55 zoom lens.
Maybe check that out too.
As Joe suggested, you need to do more homework on the Xpro details.
BHPhotovideo has a $699 deal on an X-E1 kit with the 18-55 zoom lens.
Maybe check that out too.
DNG
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Also, the XPro for lenses 18-60 can use the Optical VF... longer than 60mm or shorter than 18mm.. switch to the EVF. the best of both... Leica Like Frames in a OVF to 60mm, and EVF over 60mm...
But, the X-E2 has a newer Xtrans Sensor with PDAF and CDAF on board.
A a bit better IQ, and faster AF because of a more powerful CPU needed.
The other differences are camera feature differences..
The Xpro 2 may have the same Xtrans as the X-T1/X-E2... or may a new one with more PDAF sensors, and 1/8000s (I haven't read any rumors.. just my speculation)
If you really enjoy the Leica RF OVF for up to 60mm lenses.. then the XPro is the one.
But, the X-E2 has a newer Xtrans Sensor with PDAF and CDAF on board.
A a bit better IQ, and faster AF because of a more powerful CPU needed.
The other differences are camera feature differences..
The Xpro 2 may have the same Xtrans as the X-T1/X-E2... or may a new one with more PDAF sensors, and 1/8000s (I haven't read any rumors.. just my speculation)
If you really enjoy the Leica RF OVF for up to 60mm lenses.. then the XPro is the one.
burancap
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I liked my XE. I LOVE my XP!
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DNG
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I think (no sure), having a newer sensor, may have been tweaked a little...
But, you right, adding PDAF is not an IQ improvement.. but an AF improvement.
most small incremental Sensor improvements are marginal at best in better IQ... if any at all.
But, you right, adding PDAF is not an IQ improvement.. but an AF improvement.
most small incremental Sensor improvements are marginal at best in better IQ... if any at all.
goamules
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Pixel peeping. Any of these cameras work fine. No one could tell which took which picture, given a comparison.
Jamie Pillers
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I had the x-pro1 for a couple of years and the x-e1 for a few months. The BIG argument for the x-pro1 IMO is its optical viewfinder. Having that option puts it a huge step above the x-e1/x-e2/xt1. And, according to dpreview.com tests, the x-pro1 sensor has the best dynamic range of all the Fuji cameras.
For me, the downside of all these mirrorless cameras is that when you want to use a manual focus 'legacy' lens via adapter, you're forced to use the EVF. The modern EVF's can provide manual focus features, but it takes the fun out of it for me. I much prefer manual focusing through an optical viewfinder.
For me, the downside of all these mirrorless cameras is that when you want to use a manual focus 'legacy' lens via adapter, you're forced to use the EVF. The modern EVF's can provide manual focus features, but it takes the fun out of it for me. I much prefer manual focusing through an optical viewfinder.
Trooper
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Thanks! That's a great website. Head on, the X Pro-1 isn't much different than my D200, but when you look top down...wow!
Trooper
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Everyone else mentioned the optical vs electronic viewfinder as well. I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't see that difference myself. This makes the X-Pro 1 the winner for me, despite the additional capital investment.
Trooper
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Thanks to everyone who responded. I'm embarrassed that I didn't see the obvious difference in the viewfinders. An electronic viewfinder might be just fine, but I've never used one and the fear of the unknown bothers me. Now I just have to convince my wife that a used X-Pro 1 and a lens is a worthy investment.
DNG
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You'll find Fuji XF lenses very capable in every way...
What lens will you get 1st?
I have the XF18mm f/2 R and the XF35mm f/1.4 R..
Both excellent in sharpness (the XF35 a bit better, some say, though I can't tell)
What lens will you get 1st?
I have the XF18mm f/2 R and the XF35mm f/1.4 R..
Both excellent in sharpness (the XF35 a bit better, some say, though I can't tell)
kshapero
South Florida Man
double ditto for me. back to the Leica M3 and my old Nikon's.
GaryLH
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Unless u scale focus or have time to use the following technique.
- from ovf - hit the mag scroll/button
- focus
- hit the mag/scroll button your back to ovf to compose
Gary
kshapero
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Trooper
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The 35mm then the 56mm. I do a lot of portraits with my wife and children, so the normal to moderate telephotos suit my style the best. One day, if I can find a used one, the Zeiss lens looks interesting to play with.
judsonzhao
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better wait next generation X-trans CMOS, probably xpro2
willie_901
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If the OP decides to get the X-Pro 1, I suggest they experiment with switching back and forth between the EVF for some tasks and scenes and the OVF for others. It only takes a second. The strength of the X-Pro 1 is you can yes what ever finder is best for the moment.
For instance, confirming focus can be done in EVF mode but when you switch to OVF mode you can press the shutter without any EVF lag.
For instance, confirming focus can be done in EVF mode but when you switch to OVF mode you can press the shutter without any EVF lag.
kuvvy
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I too vote for the Xpro. The OVF is the big difference. I always said that if Fuji decided to drop the OVF in future then the Xpro would be the last camera I'd buy.
Paul
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