Fuji X Pro-1, Who's Buying?

[splitimageview]

At CES they said April. I haven't heard any updates since then.

 

[noimmunity]

http://www.thephoblographer.com/201...uji-x-pro-1-camera-system-with-sample-images/
Nice review of a preproduction model to whet your appetite

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Whet, indeed!

An unreservedly enthusiastic response from a first-user with lots of experience and apparently plenty of gear...Interesting!

The comments about image quality and AF are most impressive, but could the AF really be overall as effective as a 5D mkII?

This suggests that the XP1 is in several (not all) key ways as good or better than previous generation FF DSLRs.

 

[Jeremy Johns]

I like the idea of this camera but the most important aspect of any camera is manual focus and it seems to me that this is a deal breaker on the fuji.

I rate fujinon glass so it's a shame they couldn't improve on the x100 focusing system.

 

[noimmunity]

Personally, I'm glad they are delaying the release of the M mount adapter. Let's hope the firmware team is frantically trying to develop peak-assist. Better yet, what if the hardware team were actually trying to develop an adapter that communicated real information to the camera...

 

[noimmunity]

the most important aspect of any camera is manual focus

I thought the most important aspect was a consistently reliable focus system that enables the user to control where focus lands. This control could be effectuated in a number of different ways, and all of them pretty much require intelligent use by the operator. No?

I guess it just happens that for many people on RFF, the system that delivers the most consistently predictable and controllable results is manual focusing, but I doubt that this is globally applicable.

 

[jsrockit]

Personally, I'm glad they are delaying the release of the M mount adapter. Let's hope the firmware team is frantically trying to develop peak-assist. Better yet, what if the hardware team were actually trying to develop an adapter that communicated real information to the camera...

Hopes and dreams... there will be some bitching on this forum if Fuji just makes a plain old adapter.

 

[bobbyrab]

If, and this is just conjecture, the adapter is just a plain adapter, then I think M lenses will be quite hampered by relying on the evf.
My experience yesterday trying to focus the 18mm manually with the EVF was not great, I don't know if my wearing glasses was a factor, but I found it very difficult to see what was in and what was out of focus, and the 100% view [in the finder] wasn't that much easier.
That said using the Fuji lens on AF was fantastic, the AF system seems really quick and accurate, and it felt like a real camera, no lag of any kind. I think it will be a real alternative to digital M's, but probably only with the Fuji lenses.

 

[splitimageview]

If it's a plain adapter, people will bitch. If it's a smart adapter, they'll bitch about the price.

Personally, I would not bother with M lenses on this camera. Get the AF lenses, they are light, inexpensive, and have excellent rendering characteristics.

 

[gavinlg]

If it's a plain adapter, people will bitch. If it's a smart adapter, they'll bitch about the price.

Personally, I would not bother with M lenses on this camera. Get the AF lenses, they are light, inexpensive, and have excellent rendering characteristics.

yeah 100% - use the lenses designed for the camera - they'll perform better in every way. And they're inexpensive!

 

[RealXenuis]

Straw man slayed! YOU are on a roll!!

wow, seems like I tapped into a bees nest here, I'm sorry for not sharing the uniform 'hype-am-all-in-for-it-i'm pre ordering two or three', actually i went there to the place an order on the camera, as there was an opportunity for a hands on.. i just expected much more, so i didn't order it (yet) neither did I say i hate it and I will never buy it, to me it just feels like a 1500$ camera not 2500$ camera.. (being completely honest)

I don't want to discredit fujis approach the camera is indeed very good, it's just no worth the asked money to me for the following reasons, there are many likes and dislikes there as there are for as on all products

here are my negatives first:

-built worse than a E-P1/2 or Panasonic L1, let alone M8
-Lenses squeek when focusing (might have been pre-production)
-aperture dial didn't feel right to me, lacking tactility (every bessa lens I know is better in this regard)
-manual focusing is emergency only imo this is a 100% AF camera (some may of course like that)
-by wire focusing lacks mechanical smoothness of true RF lenses
-the planned M-adapter might have to focus your M lenses with loupe in EVF mode, (the fuji guys didn't want to comment on this either yet)
-Electronic VF is mediocre, nothing to write home about
-same laggy menu feeling as on x100
-not a real rangefinder camera

positives:
-Very nice body size and body weight.
-no bull**** extrernal buttons reduced to the essential (great)
-thoughtful interface
-excellent (superb) OVF, with framelines dropping in automatically when you adapter those fuji lenses
-superb, superb sensor (might be reason enough to buy in already, should be well in D3 territory)
-looks
-shutter sound much better than on x100 and M8
-great display
-fast operation

get your hands on one, I'm curious to read your impressions

regs
maitani

 

[Talex]

Agreed on using Fuji lenses. But still, I would love to mount the CV 15/4.5 on it. I love the sharpness and lack of distortion on that lens, and plus it is wider than the Fuji 18/2.

yeah 100% - use the lenses designed for the camera - they'll perform better in every way. And they're inexpensive!

 

[intheviewfinder]

As I mentioned in the OMD thread, I'm really torn. It's either the Fuji X-Pro1 with the 3 lenses or the Olympus OM-D EM-5 Camera Body w Oly 12mm f2 Oly 45mm f1.8 + PanaLeica 25mm f1.4 .

Which one?

 

[jsrockit]

ITV, I cannot see how you could be confused between those two cameras other than them both being cool new cameras. Which one fits your style more?

 

[splitimageview]

Bigger sensor, no AA...shallower DOF. I know which I'd prefer based on what I like to shoot...YMMV of course

 

[celluloidprop]

I'm torn as well.
Both are 16MP, relatively compact bodies with EVFs, and a similar suite of lenses.

XP-1 pros:
bigger sensor, potentially superior DR and high ISO noise/detail, OVF

E-M5 pros:
better EVF, better AF, probably the best IBIS we've seen, smaller body, smaller lenses, the 12/2 is slightly wider than the Fuji's 18/2

If you rely on the OVF most of the time, it's a no-brainer. I'm probably at 50/50 OVF/EVF with my X100 these days, which makes it a little tougher, but there's enough overlap in features and usage here to cause confusion.

I got on the list at a local shop for a Fuji - if they call me with one I'll snap it up. If there's a wait, I see that as time for LR4 to work with both and I can see how they really perform at high ISOs and compare EVFs.

 

[macjim]

here's another review... it's a long read though:http://holyfstop.blogspot.com/2012/03/fujifilm-x-pro-1-first-look.html

 

[intheviewfinder]

I'm torn as well.
Both are 16MP, relatively compact bodies with EVFs, and a similar suite of lenses.

XP-1 pros:
bigger sensor, potentially superior DR and high ISO noise/detail, OVF

E-M5 pros:
better EVF, better AF, probably the best IBIS we've seen, smaller body, smaller lenses, the 12/2 is slightly wider than the Fuji's 18/2.

Succinctly put - this covers many of the core issues.

Also remember the Oly has got some nice weather proofing.

 

[celluloidprop]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hjm_s/

The Fuji Pro Neg simulation looks great.

 

[Spyro]

But still, I would love to mount the CV 15/4.5 on it.

result with the CV15/4.5

from here: http://www.dchome.net/viewthread.php?tid=1119245&extra=page%3D1

 

[RealXenuis]

Anyone know how to get an XP1 from Japan or overseas (I'm in the US) without going through ebay? I have a trip early April and I'm nervous it won't arrive. (I PM'd Japancamerahunter but got no response)