red snapper
Established
If and when they make a full frame M-Mount version with coupled rangefinder. That would be worth trading my Leica film cameras for.
nighstar
eternal beginner
seems like a nice camera, but it's not for me. not right now anyway.
jippiejee
Well-known
I want to see reviews on how it handles (and especially focuses) m-mount glass first. And seeing how Fuji deals with bug reports. thought them quite arrogant towards their customers in the past.
Paul T.
Veteran
If and when they make a full frame M-Mount version with coupled rangefinder. That would be worth trading my Leica film cameras for.
So you want them to produce the M9. I'm sure they'll leap at the chance.
back alley
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i don't care about manual focus or m mount lenses...
as long as the af is as good as on the x100 i would be happy.
as long as the af is as good as on the x100 i would be happy.
kshapero
South Florida Man
I am in the same boat here.I think I will wait until others are actually using it. Selling gear would be required and I guess I will wait and see.i am very interested in the xpro but can't really afford it without selling my current kit...and i'm not sure about doing that.
j.scooter
Veteran
I am getting one.
Impatiently waiting. lol
Impatiently waiting. lol
whtchocla7e
Member
i don't care about manual focus
This statement echoes Fuji's own attitude toward manual focus.. The rest of this post is not directed at the author though. Just my own rant.
retro looks
aperture ring
shutter speed dial
OVF
fixed lens
Ok, so far this sounds very much like an old school camera...
piss-poor manual focus
Hmm...
If they were aiming to recreate the shooting experience of even an average manual camera - they've failed badly.. :bang:
I have this uneasy feeling that sometime in the future, there won't even be any cameras with MF... But hey, dumb AF knows better what I want to focus on than I know myself. The future is bright.
back alley
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on my nikon d90, i can set the af area i want, same with the spot meter...this is ideal for me as it focusses exactly where i want.
if the fuji did that as well...
if the fuji did that as well...
gavinlg
Veteran
This statement echoes Fuji's own attitude toward manual focus.. The rest of this post is not directed at the author though. Just my own rant.
retro looks
aperture ring
shutter speed dial
OVF
fixed lens
Ok, so far this sounds very much like an old school camera...
piss-poor manual focus
Hmm...
If they were aiming to recreate the shooting experience of even an average manual camera - they've failed badly.. :bang:
I have this uneasy feeling that sometime in the future, there won't even be any cameras with MF... But hey, dumb AF knows better what I want to focus on than I know myself. The future is bright.
on my nikon d90, i can set the af area i want, same with the spot meter...this is ideal for me as it focusses exactly where i want.
if the fuji did that as well...
It's a single center spot focussing point. Same as the x100. Which is the best kind - an AF version of an RF patch.
tbarker13
shooter of stuff
I just wish it would allow some sort of back-button focusing method. Then I'd be in heaven.
clicker
Well-known
I canceled my order, thinking it wise to wait and see how it shakes out.
bwcolor
Veteran
I'm not anxious, but canceling means paying an extra $250 for the lenses. Just got the NEX-7 and mixed feelings..great video. Love my X100 and that is why I don't mind waiting...decisions.
gavinlg
Veteran
I just wish it would allow some sort of back-button focusing method. Then I'd be in heaven.
It does - AF-L button on the back. Same as the x100.
tbarker13
shooter of stuff
It does - AF-L button on the back. Same as the x100.
Then I'll be in heaven.
kuzano
Veteran
Clarifying my pricing comments on Fuji....
Clarifying my pricing comments on Fuji....
My pricing comment on the Fuji GF670, was not based on street prices which "may" be found at the current time. When the GF670 came out, the original pricing was $2400, and remained that way for some time. It's certainly to be expected that street price would bring that down, and not surprised if it can be found for $1700. I think that the comment about a $1300 price has to be referencing a "used" model... certainly not new from a retailer.
Then the wide version comes out and WHAT? Fuji takes out the bellows, strut assembly, and folding front standard, and introduces it for almost $1000 more than the original GF670. Hmmm? Hence my confusion about Fuji taking considerable advantage of the fact they are the only contender intro'ing a new film medium format in many years.
Likewise, I think the price they are asking for a fixed lens pseudo range finder is also above reasonable. The point of them issuing a similar second offering plays to the comment "Fool me once, shame on you..... Fool me twice, shame on me..."
Clarifying my pricing comments on Fuji....
My pricing comment on the Fuji GF670, was not based on street prices which "may" be found at the current time. When the GF670 came out, the original pricing was $2400, and remained that way for some time. It's certainly to be expected that street price would bring that down, and not surprised if it can be found for $1700. I think that the comment about a $1300 price has to be referencing a "used" model... certainly not new from a retailer.
Then the wide version comes out and WHAT? Fuji takes out the bellows, strut assembly, and folding front standard, and introduces it for almost $1000 more than the original GF670. Hmmm? Hence my confusion about Fuji taking considerable advantage of the fact they are the only contender intro'ing a new film medium format in many years.
Likewise, I think the price they are asking for a fixed lens pseudo range finder is also above reasonable. The point of them issuing a similar second offering plays to the comment "Fool me once, shame on you..... Fool me twice, shame on me..."
willie_901
Veteran
I placed a pre-order for the X Pro-1 at my local camera shop 5 weeks ago. I'm just ordering the 35/1.4 lens for now. I was pleased to read recent reports that the camera feels light. Occasionally I'll carry the X100 and the XP1 together, so light is good. I will keep the X100 for quite a while as I like to have a back up camera suitable for everyday use. Also I find the X100 to be invisible, so it may be better in situations where the XP1 might appear too serious.
I also find using the X100 AF manually is quite similar in process to using an analog RF patch. The lack of true MF in Fuji's design for the X series lenses does not bother me. The MF situation may change when the M adaptor is released. Or, it may not. Since I don't own any M lenses, I don't worry about that.
I tried m4/3 for a year and the raw files just didn't have the quality I found in my Nikon APS-C raw files. I feel the X100 raw files out shine the Nikon's (D300). The DxO data confirms my qualitative conclusions. So, the OM-D is of no interest to me. It looks like it will be a tough little body though. I can see how others will embrace the Oly system.
I also find using the X100 AF manually is quite similar in process to using an analog RF patch. The lack of true MF in Fuji's design for the X series lenses does not bother me. The MF situation may change when the M adaptor is released. Or, it may not. Since I don't own any M lenses, I don't worry about that.
I tried m4/3 for a year and the raw files just didn't have the quality I found in my Nikon APS-C raw files. I feel the X100 raw files out shine the Nikon's (D300). The DxO data confirms my qualitative conclusions. So, the OM-D is of no interest to me. It looks like it will be a tough little body though. I can see how others will embrace the Oly system.
willie_901
Veteran
Then I'll be in heaven.
On the X100 the back-button focus is only available in MF mode. Once the camera locks focus during a button press, focus will not change unless you turn the lens collar or press the button again. This method works well in EVF mode because the focus box can be set to a very small area. This means it is easy to know exactly where the focus point is and it is also easy to find a high contrast object for focus in low light. Also, focus lock confirmation is more obvious in EVF mode. Once focus is set a quick press of the EVF/OVF switch puts you in OVF mode.
I often focus in EVF and recompose and press the shutter in OVF.
fearofhummingbird
Member
On the X100 the back-button focus is only available in MF mode. Once the camera locks focus during a button press, focus will not change unless you turn the lens collar or press the button again. This method works well in EVF mode because the focus box can be set to a very small area. This means it is easy to know exactly where the focus point is and it is also easy to find a high contrast object for focus in low light. Also, focus lock confirmation is more obvious in EVF mode. Once focus is set a quick press of the EVF/OVF switch puts you in OVF mode.
I often focus in EVF and recompose and press the shutter in OVF.
Actually I use the AF-L button all the time in AF-S mode. I have it set to focus lock only and also set to toggle on/off with presses of the button. I will focus with a half press of the shutter, get the green box confirmation, then if I wish to hold the focus for multiple shots I press the button once. From then on focus is held and the focus box remains green. This is a great way to set up temporary zone focusing by the way. Then, another click of the button and lock is released.
maggieo
More Deadly
It took me two years to get an X100, which I'm now loving, so I figure it'll take me a year or so to actually consider an X Pro-1. I still have my M8, but its sensor is terrible over ISO 320 anymore, so I might wind up going for the big Fuji...
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