Paddy C
Unused film collector
Regarding price, I would also keep in mind the recent Fuji film folder.
That started a similar case of the "wants" amongst many until the price dropped. Then it was all tears and outrage.
I would be beyond shocked if this camera sells for less than $1K.
I would not be at all shocked to see a $2K price tag. Not one little bit.
That started a similar case of the "wants" amongst many until the price dropped. Then it was all tears and outrage.
I would be beyond shocked if this camera sells for less than $1K.
I would not be at all shocked to see a $2K price tag. Not one little bit.
This will cost more than the Leica, but nevertheless (assuming it all works) it's going to kill sales of the X1. I wonder what Leica can pull out of the hat at Photokina ?
I just don't see this happening. There are a huge group of Leica users that don't use anything but Leica. They won't even give this Fuji the time of day.
Myself? I'll keep using my X1 even when I buy this Fuji!
tritiated
Well-known
They have really done their homework, if execution is as good as design and specification appears to be - then this could be something really special.
How long have people been asking for a digital HexarAF on here? awesome.
Thinking of professionals;
Could it be follow after the x1 to be 'approved' by getty (whatever that means in reality)
http://www.bjp-online.com/british-j.../1727025/getty-images-approves-compact-camera
How long have people been asking for a digital HexarAF on here? awesome.
Thinking of professionals;
Could it be follow after the x1 to be 'approved' by getty (whatever that means in reality)
http://www.bjp-online.com/british-j.../1727025/getty-images-approves-compact-camera
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Paul T.
Veteran
So I assume you don't count Annie Liebowitz, just one of many HExar AF owners, as a pro?Cool camera indeed, but not a PRO camera. Only fixed lens - also not a pro feature. Hexar AF was not a camera designed for pros either.
As pointed out above, the Hexar AF was a pricey item. I've a feeling this will be, too.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
M like, shutter lag isn't really an issue with modern digital cameras. You obviously haven't tried one lately.
Soothsayerman
Established
If it's a real rangefinder and it's decent, I would get one in a sec.
vincentbenoit
télémétrique argentique
Scale focusing
Scale focusing
Where's the fully analog control for fast scale focusing? The small thumbwheel at the back of the camera might well be a focussing wheel, but it doesn't seem to be labelled with a distance scale... So it looks like prefocusing won't be possible without having to use the LCD screen. Which sucks.
Of the course the camera doesn't exist yet, so there's no point speculating about this kind of thing, right?
Vincent
Scale focusing
Where's the fully analog control for fast scale focusing? The small thumbwheel at the back of the camera might well be a focussing wheel, but it doesn't seem to be labelled with a distance scale... So it looks like prefocusing won't be possible without having to use the LCD screen. Which sucks.
Of the course the camera doesn't exist yet, so there's no point speculating about this kind of thing, right?
Vincent
jorgen83
Established
So I assume you don't count Annie Liebowitz, just one of many HExar AF owners, as a pro?
As pointed out above, the Hexar AF was a pricey item. I've a feeling this will be, too.
Ah, but nowadays your camera defines whether you're a pro, not your photographs...
Paul T.
Veteran
Agreed. But this is still far more usable than most other compacts, about the same as the Hexar AF - which many people regard as the best street camera.Street photographers.Why is it so difficult to put a scale on a lens? W
is it? Not disagreeing, just would love to see more info.[*]It is confirmed that it has the same two years old sensor as the entry-level cameras Pentax K-x, Ricoh GXR and Nikon D90.
My G10 didn't even approach the image quality of the GF1. I don't doubt that the X100 is an order of magnitude better. The X100 might be average for an APS-C sensor, but that still sets it well apart from compacts, and micro fourthirds, too.Canon's new G12 is probably a very tough competitor when it comes to image quality but with a very 'digital' usability - at one third of the price.
igi
Well-known
$1700, says Fuji, a lot of money for a fixed lens rangefinder hat has no rangefinder, and an almost out-dated sensor. This is not a replacement for a Leica M8 or M9. The above-mentioned Pentax K-x and Nikon D90 with the same sensor cost 1/4 to 1/2 of the new Fuji.
Sheesh... why does it always have to have a rangefinder... it's not even a rangefinder!
emraphoto
Veteran
Have u seen the high iso offerings out of a pentax k-x?
Pretty staggering really.
Pretty staggering really.
semordnilap
Well-known
anyone looked at the google rankings for 'finepix x100'?
i really hope this thing is a hit & everyone else copies the idea...!!!
i really hope this thing is a hit & everyone else copies the idea...!!!
yanidel
Well-known
Maybe because we are on a rangefinder forum in case you haven't notice ?Sheesh... why does it always have to have a rangefinder... it's not even a rangefinder!
vincentbenoit
télémétrique argentique
This is not a rant. These are legitimate concerns.Forgive my rant
Vincent
jerdjets
Member
Street photographers. And I am one of them. Why is it so difficult to put a scale on a lens? Why is it called progress if a manufacturer puts another electronic gadget into an overloaded, tiny 0.5/90% viewfinder if it only does the same thing as a simple scale?
Forgive me for peeing on the carpet:
- It is confirmed that it has the same two years old sensor as the entry-level cameras Pentax K-x, Ricoh GXR and Nikon D90. This means that low noise at high ISO is something we better don't expect. So, are we talking about "Leica quality" here or about "good enough for the family album and a bit more"?
- Manual focus - how?
- 90% viewfinder - why?
- Fast autofocus - oh, really? Doesn't the camera industry promise that since about 1952? (B.C., that is..)
- Short shutter lag - how short can it be on a camera that is made for AF? Probably it's short when you turn off AF. Today, the shutter lag in digital compact cameras is still too long for still life images: make sure all fruit in the image is fresh when you press the button because it will take a while until the image is taken.
- The LCD display is fixed and cannot be used as a WLF.
- $1700, says Fuji, a lot of money for a fixed lens rangefinder hat has no rangefinder, and an almost out-dated sensor. This is not a replacement for a Leica M8 or M9. The above-mentioned Pentax K-x and Nikon D90 with the same sensor cost 1/4 to 1/2 of the new Fuji.
Forgive my rant, but I will probably wait for the replies of Canon, Nikon, Leica and Cosina/Voigtländer/Zeiss. Canon's new G12 is probably a very tough competitor when it comes to image quality but with a very 'digital' usability - at one third of the price.
If this camera is shown at Photokina I will steal it and report about my impressions![]()
Agreed, I am one of those that needs dof scale on the lens, pre-focusing allows me to shoot much faster in the street.
Fuji's hybrid view finder is a nice little touch to their compact digital camera, but when I think about it. Sony's swivel's LCD is probably more valuable to a street photographer allowing them to be more stealthy taking shots from the waist.
X100 probably use focus by wire mechanism, the exact focussing mechanism found in panny GF1 and Ep series. It's nowhere near as fast and as precise as mechanical focussing on M lens.
Still, it looks like a fine camera. I'd take it over the X1.
M
M like Leica M6
Guest
M like, shutter lag isn't really an issue with modern digital cameras. You obviously haven't tried one lately.
I tried a few lately, in fact, and I am still shivering. I spoke about compact cameras. A lot depends on whether the AF is fast or not and how often these cameras with their f/8 to f/16 zoom lenses charge their miniature strobes.
semordnilap
Well-known
Ha. The Online Photographer is down... never seen that before! Someone finally releases the DMD and everyone runs to TOP to read about it.
M
M like Leica M6
Guest
Have u seen the high iso offerings out of a pentax k-x?
Pretty staggering really.
Well, I saw the results and was not very impressed. Maybe it is unfair that I compare it with my EOS 5D2
M
M like Leica M6
Guest
Ha. The Online Photographer is down... never seen that before! Someone finally releases the DMD and everyone runs to TOP to read about it.
That downtime is called "The Photokina Effect".
swoop
Well-known
I think this would be a fantastic weekend or in car camera for the off duty pro.
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