Spyro
Well-known
truth be told, there doesnt seem to be much room in the back to comfortably place a thumb, let alone two. If I had my way I'd probably ditch a couple of buttons entirely but I'm not that fussed either.
Paul T.
Veteran
Abolutely. But by having a separate aperture and exposure compensation control, the Fuju is already an order of magnitude better.
I for one would love to see easy access to ISO, and also an intelligent program mode like the Hexar's, which is brilliant in comparison to Canon or Panasonic's compacts.
tstermitz
Well-known
I'm thinking this is the M8 killer. What other APS-C sensor cameras are there this size? The new sony's? What else?
IQ is sensitive to pixel size. If this is the D90/D300 sensor (5.5 micron), then the IQ will be quite good, and 300 dpi gives you appx 10x14 inch prints without up-rezzing. The ISO and IQ will be rather better than micro 4/3, although not as good as the FF Nikons (8.5 microns) or M9 (6.8 microns). D90 provides decent noise performance at ISO 800, and sometimes useful up to 1600.
What about the anti-aliasing filter?
It will not kill the M8 because the M8 is already dead... it is no longer sold new. It won't affect used sales much because if someone wants a Leica with Leica lenses, then this is not a substitute. I like the X100 and will buy one, but I think people are overestimating its impact on the market as whole. It is still more niche then mainstream in its design (i.e not a DSLR, no zoom, not modern looking, etc).
tonyjuliano
Wooden Indian
No, not without a lens system, even as flawed as the M8 is. X1 killer possibly.
Now there is a good question...
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
I'd be shocked if it wan't there, and presumably it's well-matched to the MTF of the lens. Unlike other systems, they don't have to optimise the properties of the AA filter across an entire range of lenses, just for one.
The eccentric microlenses on the sensor are also a clue: too strong an AA filter would scatter light, negating much of the engineering effort put into the microlens array. I suspect that the same considerations were behind Leica's complete omission of an AA filter from the M8 and M9.
It's not (as many speculated) that Leica are opposed to an AA filter. There are very good reasons to have one. It's that AA is not compatible with the microlens array, so there was a tradeoff. In many ways it seems to have been a good tradeoff.
Very interested to see what Fuji does here.
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Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
I've suggested this in another thread. For those already shooting with an M8, and would like to have a second camera/focal length handy to avoid on the run lens swaps, I would think this would make a good companion. Comparable workflow, and dare I say results (if it lives up to its expectations). I'm thinking along these lines with my R-D1
cam
the need for speed
yes, as exciting as this is, it definitely does not replace my M8... at all!
eta: too slow on the post. Ezzie took the words out of my mouth.
eta: too slow on the post. Ezzie took the words out of my mouth.
samuelphoto
Established
I feel Fuji was very smart to go with only a fixed lens, to do otherwise likely would have created so many design compromises that the product wouldn't have delivered on its value proposition. If it really sells at $1K, they could introduce the camera in other focal lengths (say 21mm/24mm, 50mm, 90mm) and I'd buy one of each. This seems almost like a digital G2 which had superb IQ but quirky focusing that I couldn't live with. If the focusing is fast and reliable, I am SOOO there!
ElectroWNED
Well-known
Too expensive for me, but sounds great for all you dentists and doctors that already have an M8/M9/X1/etc... You guys really need another otherworldly camera.
cam
the need for speed
retracting my statement. not worth it. attention seeker.
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Come on, you don't have to be rich to own these... because I'm certainly not. I just don't bother owning a car or house and I'm not married, so I can spend my cash elsewhere. ****, even if you have a bad job, you can get a second one and save.
tstermitz
Well-known
I was sort of joking about the m8 killer
I was sort of joking about the m8 killer
Two things make this camera really attractive:
(1) Large sensor, hi IQ in a small size. What is the competition?
That is what I meant by M8 killer. Isn't the m8 the IQ king in the large sensor small format category? (Not counting the m9). Yeah, I get swappable lenses...
(2) Optical viewfinder, with heads-up display plus EV switch. (I can't stand composing with live view.)
I have the Canon s90, with the lens ring that offers nice handling. But, I end up being really irritated using the back screen to focus. It does have an f/2 lens, but with the small sensor, you only get f/2 at the widest-end of the zoom. It works pretty well as a point-and-shoot with good performance in good light at wide angles. Stray more than two points off optimum conditions, and I'd much rather lug around my dslr.
I was sort of joking about the m8 killer
Two things make this camera really attractive:
(1) Large sensor, hi IQ in a small size. What is the competition?
That is what I meant by M8 killer. Isn't the m8 the IQ king in the large sensor small format category? (Not counting the m9). Yeah, I get swappable lenses...
(2) Optical viewfinder, with heads-up display plus EV switch. (I can't stand composing with live view.)
I have the Canon s90, with the lens ring that offers nice handling. But, I end up being really irritated using the back screen to focus. It does have an f/2 lens, but with the small sensor, you only get f/2 at the widest-end of the zoom. It works pretty well as a point-and-shoot with good performance in good light at wide angles. Stray more than two points off optimum conditions, and I'd much rather lug around my dslr.
ElectroWNED
Well-known
Grad school doesn't leave much room for anything other than reading, and reading, and reading.... oh, and writing.
Paul T.
Veteran
Lay off web fora, get a Saturday job, and you might earn enough money for another camera, if that's what you want.
Right, but that is only temporary. Remember, there are all age brackets on this forum, from many different countries, and all of our circumstances are different. You'll be rolling in the cash soon (hopefully) and then $1000 for a camera won't seem like a big deal.
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
I bought my M6 (new) and two lenses (used) in grad school, and left grad school with less debt than I started with. The key was owning no car and living super cheaply. Even now that I have a good job as a faculty member, my wife and I share one 10-year-old car that was not terribly expensive to begin with, and was paid off years ago.
Cars are just awful money sinks. Avoid cars, and cameras are easier.
But yeah, grad school is tough. No way around that. Not if you're doing it seriously.
reala_fan
Well-known
I was thinking $1000.00 for a single lens point-n-shoot might be a bit more than I wanted to spend...
If I had a grand to spend, think I'd rather have the Panasonic 7-14mm for my G1.
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