tapesonthefloor
Well-known
A pretty narrow view of what photography is...
Definitely. But I'm a pretty narrow guy, and photography can be whatever I want it to be. Fortunately for us all, I am both unable and unwilling to impose that definition on anyone else.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
But there looks like 2 cameras! One 35mm lens, big strap lugs and the MF, AF-S, AF-C dial on left position
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And the other one 23mm lens, little strap lugs, and the MF, AF-S, AF-C dial on right position
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Maybe both are pre-production, maybe prototipes, or maybe an epic fail![]()
Maybe it is secretly an interchangeable lens camera
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
By the time this camera is actually introduced, it will never live up to the hype it has received from those lusting after it!
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
Definitely. But I'm a pretty narrow guy, and photography can be whatever I want it to be. Fortunately for us all, I am both unable and unwilling to impose that definition on anyone else.
I think that we all have to adapt to our tools, to their strengths and weaknesses, to a greater or lesser extent.
Many of us have a very, very tight relationship with our MF rangefinders, and I daresay that this is especially so with Leica M's.
Perhaps we should remember that all tools require compromise. Even our beloved rangefinders!
This new camera offers some things that the film and even digital M's never offered.
Real-time DOF preview.
DOF scales in the finder.
Focusing to 10 cm.
Perfect parallax correction, all the way down to 10 cm.
Real-time in-finder histogram.
In-finder display of aperture and shutter speed.
etc.
All of this is potentially very useful.
If I can have one or two scale-focus presets (even *just* 2 m would do), I'm good to go.
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
I really hope this E/OVF hybrid will become a new trend and adapted to other large sensor compacts.
PKR
Veteran
Maybe it is secretly an interchangeable lens camera![]()
Not likely, but maybe in a second or third generation. The camera(s) we are looking at are prototypes. Until you can put your hands on one or read several reviews, it's a guessing game. Who knows, there may be some major advance in the chip driving the AF servo by the time the camera is in production.
It's foolish to get too carried away at this point. But, since it's Fuji, a major player.. there will likely be a camera of this type on the market next year.
I have no idea as to the cost. i would hope under $2,500, given the price point and their claim of "professional" in the description. It could be a lot more. $1,700 would fit both Pro and Amateur markets. Who knows what the dollar vs. Yen will be next year?
Matus
Well-known
This camera was compared to fuji MF fixed focal cameras, but I do not think that this is a reasonable comparison especially because this camera is digital. I do not doubt the quality of the lens or of the body to make it clear. But the sensor will be old at the time it will be released. With a film camera you would just buy a new film once it would hit the market. With digital in 2 - 3 years you have a camera in hand which, if you want to get a newer model, you will get very little $$$ for and money wise you start from beginning. Realizing this I would be willing to invest less to digital camera than to equivalent film camera (just forget the huge differences in workflow here). So I do not expect buyers standing in a queue if the price will be around $1500. Whether the camera Fuji is preparing for us can be made for less is something I do not know.
Still - this camera jut may be the last nail in the coffin of my resistance going to Photokina this year.
Still - this camera jut may be the last nail in the coffin of my resistance going to Photokina this year.
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
Looks like my Fujica will meet her granddaughter in the spring.

ywenz
Veteran
This camera was compared to fuji MF fixed focal cameras, but I do not think that this is a reasonable comparison especially because this camera is digital. I do not doubt the quality of the lens or of the body to make it clear. But the sensor will be old at the time it will be released. With a film camera you would just buy a new film once it would hit the market. With digital in 2 - 3 years you have a camera in hand which, if you want to get a newer model, you will get very little $$$ for and money wise you start from beginning. Realizing this I would be willing to invest less to digital camera than to equivalent film camera (just forget the huge differences in workflow here). So I do not expect buyers standing in a queue if the price will be around $1500. Whether the camera Fuji is preparing for us can be made for less is something I do not know.
seriously are we really going to start the digital vs film talk again?
PKR
Veteran
Still - this camera jut may be the last nail in the coffin of my resistance going to Photokina this year.[/quote]
Matus; Please go to Photokina and shoot some photos of the cameras and report back. Get your hands on some of these "vapor" cameras and tell us what you think. I'll send you beer money!
pkr
Matus; Please go to Photokina and shoot some photos of the cameras and report back. Get your hands on some of these "vapor" cameras and tell us what you think. I'll send you beer money!
pkr
Miserere
Find Ranger
For the ones, speaking Spanish: http://www.dslrmagazine.com/digital...y-especiales/fujifilm-x100-toma-de-con-2.html
I made my way through it, thanks for having Spanish in school for five years, after all, it gave me something...
In short:
-Viewfinder is humongous. They compare it to Leica M.
Allow me to correct you (Spanish is my mother tongue). Valentin Sama says at first sight, [the VF] reminds one in regards to clarity, cleanness and luminosity to the best that's found in cameras such as the M.
That's still high praise!
btgc
Veteran
Remember, X100 is great news also for those who will not pre-order one. It may happen that market sees good offers from those who will dump their current gear to rush for X100.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
btgc, that's what I was thinking. The classifieds should just fill up now with cool, low priced gear!
damien.murphy
Damien
Strange.. there are definitely two versions of the X100 from the pics we've seen one with 35mm lens one with 23mm lens. WTF!?
I'd imagine the product images are knock-ups. A 23mm lens on APS will net you a 35mm field of view in 35mm film terms
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
btgc, that's what I was thinking. The classifieds should just fill up now with cool, low priced gear!
+1. I think you'll be able to score GF1, DP1/2 and possibly even some X1 for a good price real soon. (and of course other premium compacts like Canon G series)
So I do not expect buyers standing in a queue if the price will be around $1500.
I expect there will be a huge demand at that price. There is nothing like it at any price...
Matus
Well-known
seriously are we really going to start the digital vs film talk again?
No (!) , not my intention. I only commented on a specific camera comparison.
RF_newbie
RF_newbie John
Fuji Finepix X100 Pre-order
Fuji Finepix X100 Pre-order
Get yours ordered today!!
http://www.precision-camera.com/main/fuji-finepix-x100-pre-order-deposit.html
Fuji Finepix X100 Pre-order
Get yours ordered today!!
http://www.precision-camera.com/main/fuji-finepix-x100-pre-order-deposit.html
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Wow. That was quick. lol
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
If it really ends up at $1500 MSRP, Fuji will have my money in the spring. Probably it will come down to 1200-1k mark by the "X200" release.
I'd expect Fuji'll releases the second, probably a bit "budget" version like E-PL1 for Oly against E-P1/2 in a 10-12 months time. Then full version up in 1-1.5 years, or do DP1/2 type of system expansion concurrently. Or if they think there is a big enough market, they might bring interchangeable lens version as advanced model.
Haha, I'm already thinking of future-future models.
But yeah, if the X100 is below/around $1500 mark, I'll be pre-ordering one.
I'd expect Fuji'll releases the second, probably a bit "budget" version like E-PL1 for Oly against E-P1/2 in a 10-12 months time. Then full version up in 1-1.5 years, or do DP1/2 type of system expansion concurrently. Or if they think there is a big enough market, they might bring interchangeable lens version as advanced model.
Haha, I'm already thinking of future-future models.
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