archeophoto
I love 1950's quality
Hi all,
The new digital Rangefinder function mirrored in the optical viewfinder of the Fuji X100T gives the camera pretty much full manual focus rangefinder capabilities.
So is the X100T considered a rangefinder or not?
What's your opinion?
The new digital Rangefinder function mirrored in the optical viewfinder of the Fuji X100T gives the camera pretty much full manual focus rangefinder capabilities.
So is the X100T considered a rangefinder or not?
What's your opinion?
A mechanical rangefinder...no. A digital rangefinder... sure.
VTHokiEE
Well-known
Hopefully this doesn't sidetrack the conversation, but how was the manual focus of the earlier models? I would think that'd be a pretty essential aspect of the feature, regardless of the name
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semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
It's a window-viewfinder camera that can determine the subject's range. Although the mechanism of range finding is not classical image-overlap parallax, it would be nonsensical to say that it's not a rangefinder.
kzphoto
Well-known
I haven't used the x100t, but the videos showing the hybrid VF make the unit seem less than ideal. I would imagine one focusing on the tiny window in the corner rather than the rest of the frame. I like a rangefinder because I can really nail focus without distancing myself from the rest of a composition. That said, the HVF is a game changer an I can't wait to try it.
aizan
Veteran
no, but why does it matter if you call it a rangefinder or not?
no, but why does it matter if you call it a rangefinder or not?
How is it not a digital / electronic rangefinder?

If the question was... is it a mechanical rangefinder, then the answer is no
gilgsn
Established
It is a viewfinder, not a rangefinder. You may call it a digital rangefinder, but that is a misnomer. BTW the image on the EVF ("V" for "viewfinder) is an electronic representation of what the sensor sees. That "Electronic rangefinder" graphic does not depict a rangefinder. A rangefinder has two windows separated by enough distance to determine distance by triangulation. Maybe the electronic version uses a somewhat similar principle, but it is far fetched to call it a rangefinder.
Bottom line is, who cares..? What matters is that it works. I love my Leicas and my X100S. I couldn't care less what the focusing system is called as long as I can focus properly. The combination of EVF and OVF is great. Though I use the OVF 90% of the time, when I need the EVF, I m happy that it's there. They both work just fine. I use my X100S in the same manner as my M4-P and M2. The Leicas just require a bit of forethought.
Gil.
Bottom line is, who cares..? What matters is that it works. I love my Leicas and my X100S. I couldn't care less what the focusing system is called as long as I can focus properly. The combination of EVF and OVF is great. Though I use the OVF 90% of the time, when I need the EVF, I m happy that it's there. They both work just fine. I use my X100S in the same manner as my M4-P and M2. The Leicas just require a bit of forethought.
Gil.
archeophoto
I love 1950's quality
no, but why does it matter if you call it a rangefinder or not?
I think it's an interesting question. So why don't you consider it a rangefinder?
Addy101
Well-known
It is a rangefinder, just like a splitscreen is a rangefinder - a different device for measuring. But if we don't consider a splitscreen a rangefinder, why would we consider this to be one?
But it is an irrelevant question. If you like usning it, use, if you don't, don't.
But it is an irrelevant question. If you like usning it, use, if you don't, don't.
archeophoto
I love 1950's quality
Bottom line is, who cares..?
Gil.
Cameras are my hobby, that's why I care.
The people who operate this forum seem to care. There are different forum sections and under "Digital rangefinder Cameras" are only two camera makers.
I find it interesting how cameras are sorted in different sections.
gilgsn
Established
Cameras are my hobby, that's why I care.
The people who operate this forum seem to care. There are different forum sections and under "Digital rangefinder Cameras" are only two camera makers.
I find it interesting how cameras are sorted in different sections.
Ok, I understand. To me it just doesn't matter. My concern is primarily improving my composition. A camera with a window in the corner seems to help, so that's what I use. I call it a viewfinder on the X100S and a rangefinder on the Leicas. Fuji calls it a viewfinder. They designed it, they know.
Gil.
shortstop
Well-known
It's a strange method of focusing. You focus in a corner a selected zone that is in another place of the viewfinder. Diplopy is a risk.😉 may be the practise will help.How is it not a digital / electronic rangefinder? If the question was... is it a mechanical rangefinder, then the answer is no
burancap
Veteran
Electronic rangefinder, but a rangefinder nonetheless -by definition and by function. Fuji does indeed refer to it as such.
DCB
Well-known
The X100 I was one of the worst cameras I have owned. Menu from _ _ _ _, autofocus fair at best, manual focus almost impossible. I am sure the T will be much better, but for me it's not a "true" rangefinder camera.
Peace
Peace
archeophoto
I love 1950's quality
A lot of people disagree with you on the X100, but that's not what my question was. What is a "true rangefinder camera" for you?
The X100 I was one of the worst cameras I have owned. Menu from _ _ _ _, autofocus fair at best, manual focus almost impossible. I am sure the T will be much better, but for me it's not a "true" rangefinder camera.
Peace
FrozenInTime
Well-known
Seems closer to a Periflex than a rangefinder 
JohnTF
Veteran
I believe I have a Pentax and an Alpa that are SLRs and have a separate rangefinder, and idea that evidently did not really catch on.
I suppose a suspenders and belt approach, though, I would suspect Roger knows the real history?
The Pentax looked so cool I had to buy it about ten minutes after it hit Igor's table.
I have a number of RF like VF cameras that zone focus, some with indicators in the finder, and actually, zone focus can work rather well, especially for the price and speed. I still used zone focus for many situations in journalism.
The Leica in my avatar has a RF, but I did not clip it on for its portrait, same with the Standard.
Regards, John
I suppose a suspenders and belt approach, though, I would suspect Roger knows the real history?
The Pentax looked so cool I had to buy it about ten minutes after it hit Igor's table.
I have a number of RF like VF cameras that zone focus, some with indicators in the finder, and actually, zone focus can work rather well, especially for the price and speed. I still used zone focus for many situations in journalism.
The Leica in my avatar has a RF, but I did not clip it on for its portrait, same with the Standard.
Regards, John
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
My OM-10 is also rangefinder, because it has two images in the middle of VF and I have to put them together to have it in focus. Moderators, please, move OM-10 to rangefinders!
My OM-10 is also rangefinder, because it has two images in the middle of VF and I have to put them together to have it in focus. Moderators, please, move OM-10 to rangefinders!
You damn well know the difference here...
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