telenous
Well-known
What a pleasant thought. Especially the 1600 bit.
I have this faint and, well, crazy hope that Fuji is doing film-world one last favour before they bow out. They 're keeping slide film alive until Kodak gets their act together with Ektachrome. And they are passing their secret recipes for all their B&W films to Ilford for a Fuji rebranded line.
Come on Fuji. Do this and you will be FujiFILM forever.
Ted Striker
Well-known
No one did. Certainly not those here who pretend to be "experts".
This is HUGE news. What more evidence do we need that Fujifilm is shutting down their film production? Now they are outsourcing their films. That is amazing.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
FujiNoFilm indeed.
brbo
Well-known
I agree.
Can't see how Fuji intends to generate demand for this film by outsourcing the coating to Ilford (especially in the short term). Ilford will have control and won't let the Acros II compete on price with their Delta 100 (so in effect it can compete with any BW film). Acros 100 II will still have the best reciprocity characteristics but we have to remember that most users that loved Acros 100 have freezers full of Acros 100 by now. Are they going to keep buying?
They discontinued original Acros 100 because of low demand and now they aren't doing anything to increase demand. Seems like they are doing everything to make this a second Neopan 400 re-release (that lasted less than a year).
You have to wonder what happened at Fuji if Ilford is needed in production of their BW film. Kinda makes the fairytale of trouble of sourcing one of the raw materials exactly that... a fairytale. Unless they meant trouble of sourcing a coating machine
Mackinaw
Think Different
Just a guess on my part, but perhaps Fuji’s plants are better suited for large production runs (color), while Ilford/Harman’s smaller, more nimble plant is best suited for smaller production runs (B&W). So Fuji will have Ilford/Harman coat the new Acros.
Jim B.
Jim B.
As good a hypothesis as anything else I've read. Truth is, despite claims of "evidence" and so on, none of us actually *know* why this product is being made in the UK, to what extent, and for how long. It's all speculation. Why not wait until more precise details come to hand? I know it's not as much fun as going off half cocked—but arguably a better practice, to avoid propagating inaccurate information...
benlees
Well-known
Very interesting! Very smart of Fuji to get Ilford to do the coating. Clearly hedging their bets. I wonder if Freestyle will get some as a Legacy branded film like the old days? Can always wonder.
littleearth
Well-known
Agreed ! Great news for Ilford, if they are responsible for the coating !
Now give us some color film Fuji !
teddy
Jose Morales
I enjoyed it in all types of light, but it shined for me in open shade:
Neopan Acros 100 expired by John Carter, on Flickr
It could be just the way I do it, but I've found that highlights "fizzle" out with Rodinal and Acros. I get better results in the shade like you say. I still love the Acros contrast.
Long Beach Sunset - Robe - South Australia
Hasselblad 503CX, Carl Zeiss Planar 80/2.8, TMax 400, Rodinal 1:100 @ 60 mins
Ste_S
Well-known
Very disappointing news. Will be interesting to see the pricing of Acros II vs Delta 100
CMur12
Veteran
I agree with you, Brett.
I like Jim B's/Mackinaw's thought: Giving Fuji the benefit of the doubt, this may be a practical way for them to offer a low-volume B&W film.
Like everyone else, however, I don't know the reasoning behind this move.
- Murray
shimokita
白黒
Release date was yesterday Friday-22-Nov-2019 in Japan... I understand that the international roll out will be starting in early 2020.
So this morning Saturday-23-Nov I headed to the local Yodobashi Camera... not the main office in Shinjuku, a local branch. They had a few rolls in stock (both 135 and 120 formats) so I picked up three 35mm rolls...
Looking forward to run a test roll...
So this morning Saturday-23-Nov I headed to the local Yodobashi Camera... not the main office in Shinjuku, a local branch. They had a few rolls in stock (both 135 and 120 formats) so I picked up three 35mm rolls...
Looking forward to run a test roll...
shimokita
白黒
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At Yodobashi in Tokyo the price of one roll of 135 format 36 exposure is as follows:
Fuji ACROS 100 II : Yen 1,040 (~ USD 9.63)
Ilford Delta 100 : Yen 968 (~ USD 8.96)
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At Yodobashi in Tokyo the price of one roll of 120 format is as follows:
Fuji ACROS 100 II : Yen 1,040 (~ USD 9.63) ... same price as 135 format
Ilford Delta 100 : Yen 866 (~ USD 8.02)
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J enea
Established
at that price, ill shoot something else. acros was/is a good film. but not that much better than others/. hopefully its a small batch production cost and prices will come down if and when fuji finishes the film in house.
here is to hoping the film comes down in price
here is to hoping the film comes down in price
maddoc
... likes film again.
Fuji ACROS 100 was Yen 640 this year in summer. Quite some increase in price.
james.liam
Well-known
I have a roll of the old in the freezer and I’ve asked a friend traveling to Tokyo to get me a roll of the new. Perhaps I’ll shoot them side by side with my Nikons. Curious.
dourbalistar
Buy more film
If you test the old film and the new film side by side, then you're doing Acros comparison.
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
If you test the old film and the new film side by side, then you're doing Acros comparison.
Double groan...
johnrt
Established
Had an email this afternoon, Acros II in stock in the UK at the eye watering price of £14 a roll both 35mm & 120.
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
That's an easy pass!