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Fujifilm Offers First Look at 'Classic' Camera It Will Unveil Tomorrow
New Fujifilm camera features a never-before-seen design element.
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Ken Ford
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I’m curious about the X-E5. I have an X-E3 I need to sell, and also an X-E4 that I’m planning to keep - I prefer the simple shape. Curious about how the X-E5 turns out.
My biggest complaint about the X-E4 is the squinty EVF, I end up taking off my glasses. I’d love to see them make an EVF as usable with glasses as my Q2M’s.
My biggest complaint about the X-E4 is the squinty EVF, I end up taking off my glasses. I’d love to see them make an EVF as usable with glasses as my Q2M’s.
Johngwill
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According to FujiRumors the X-E5 EVF is the same as the X-E4.
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JohnGellings
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They doubled the price. It is priced like an X-Pro now. I think the X-Pro4 will be $3000+ ... I am glad I didn't wait around for Fuji X.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Reading the early previews seems to confirm this. It’s a major issue for my using X-Ex bodies, I cope but grumble about it.
I often use “Sports Finder” mode on my X-E4 to compensate but hate the 1.25 crop.
olakiril
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A side-finder styled X series camera with a great EVF is still missing. I believe Fuji tried to protect the GFX100RF and the future X-pro4.
I find that the price increase would have been justified with a great EVF (& WR). The crazy aftermarket prices of X-E4, induced by Fuji stopping its production in 2023, led to the current price point. They are getting closer to the Leica pricing scheme. I don't mind it as long as it keeps them making new cameras but I would enjoy a nice EVF in a smaller body camera that does not cost as much as a used car.
My hopes now lie with Panasonic to release a compact side-EVF styled body.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Personally I’m hoping for this in L mount… if Sigma were to port over their BF UX into a body that just adds a left side EVF I would be ecstatic.
wjlapier
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Looks like a X-E5 and 23mm f/2.8 lens. Both on B&H for preorder.
I’m pretty happy with my X-E3 and 27mm f/2.8 WR lens combo. The 23mm lens in silver might temp me to switch out lenses.
I’m pretty happy with my X-E3 and 27mm f/2.8 WR lens combo. The 23mm lens in silver might temp me to switch out lenses.
I had an X-E3 about five years ago, really enjoyed that camera. I think the vf was fine for AF but it wasn’t quite enough for manual focus adapted lenses.
Price wise, it appears Fuji is learning not to underprice. They could offer it for $1299 or something but then it would just be continually back ordered. 😆
Price wise, it appears Fuji is learning not to underprice. They could offer it for $1299 or something but then it would just be continually back ordered. 😆
Bolo Kukus
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So a new Fuji with new bells and whistles. Woo hoo.
And a new lens - a 23/2.8? Why not just use the 23/2.0 which from all reports I've read, is a good lens.
I remain, to sum all this up in one succinct word - underwhelmed.
For me the going with Fuji got as good as it will ever get (in my own personal view) with the XE2.
I've tried most of the other early Fujis including the XT line (1 and 2) and didn't really bond with them. Ditto the XE3 and XE4 which I found didn't really offer me enough to make me want to pay the prices for new cameras. My now-ancient XE2 does all I want and expect a small portable camera to do, and with a bit of care gives me images as good for my needs as any of the XTs I've owned and used.
I did make the mistake last year of buying an Xpro2, which I had lusted after for a long time. And inevitably found it doesn't really have what I expect from a camera. The dynamic range for me is particularly disappointing. I sell images to book publishers and I and two of my publisher clients found the Xpro2's dynamic range wasn't of a good enough basic standard for them to use my images - which I redid with my now-ancient 2011 model Nikon D800 and got eminently saleable results.
To each their own, of course. I will be keeping my XE2 as with the super good Fuji 18-55 or the 23/1.4 makes an ideal walkabout camera for me. But the Xpro2 will soon be going off to be sold.
Written with the thought that all this is of course subjective and entirely my own viewpoint. Horses for courses...
And a new lens - a 23/2.8? Why not just use the 23/2.0 which from all reports I've read, is a good lens.
I remain, to sum all this up in one succinct word - underwhelmed.
For me the going with Fuji got as good as it will ever get (in my own personal view) with the XE2.
I've tried most of the other early Fujis including the XT line (1 and 2) and didn't really bond with them. Ditto the XE3 and XE4 which I found didn't really offer me enough to make me want to pay the prices for new cameras. My now-ancient XE2 does all I want and expect a small portable camera to do, and with a bit of care gives me images as good for my needs as any of the XTs I've owned and used.
I did make the mistake last year of buying an Xpro2, which I had lusted after for a long time. And inevitably found it doesn't really have what I expect from a camera. The dynamic range for me is particularly disappointing. I sell images to book publishers and I and two of my publisher clients found the Xpro2's dynamic range wasn't of a good enough basic standard for them to use my images - which I redid with my now-ancient 2011 model Nikon D800 and got eminently saleable results.
To each their own, of course. I will be keeping my XE2 as with the super good Fuji 18-55 or the 23/1.4 makes an ideal walkabout camera for me. But the Xpro2 will soon be going off to be sold.
Written with the thought that all this is of course subjective and entirely my own viewpoint. Horses for courses...
Interesting, what ISO are you shooting to notice a difference in DR?
cboy
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Closer to full frame prices and others over as I believe the s9 is the cheapest full frame to date.
Out dated t50 evf and retro styled filter switch.40mp. Am I missing something important
Out dated t50 evf and retro styled filter switch.40mp. Am I missing something important
Yokosuka Mike
Abstract Clarity
I'm very interested in the Fujifilm X-E5 camera.
And, without a doubt I will be getting the Fujinon XF23mm f2.8 R WR pancake lens. I'm just not sure if I'll get it in black or silver.
All the best,
Mike
And, without a doubt I will be getting the Fujinon XF23mm f2.8 R WR pancake lens. I'm just not sure if I'll get it in black or silver.
All the best,
Mike
Beemermark
Veteran
I'm curious, did you find the X-E4 a major upgrade to the X-E3? I started out with and X-E1 (or 2) bought the X-Pro3 and hated it. Sold it and bought the X-E3. Been waiting for the X-E5 but not overwhelmed but what I'm seeing. Been thinking about the X-T5 but like the small X-E3 body.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I don’t know about an upgrade, but for me it was a better fit ergonomically. I like my bodies simple with reduced button sets, plus the thumb hook on the X-E3 doesn’t work for me. I think most people much prefer the X-E3 over the X-E4, I’m an odd duck.
JohnGellings
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Because people like pancake lenses.
That camera was slow and underspeced.
Isn't that a good thing? Not having to buy new stuff all the time?
Come on now... that doesn't seem like a X-Pro issue to me.
Dogman
Veteran
Okay, the new Fuji is not for me. I'm still happy with my X-Pro2 Fujis. Hell, I still like the X-Pro1 and those lovely little X100S models I bought during the Ice Age. They work for me, feel nice in my hands and the photos are as good as I could ever want. Even though I may occasionally hit a button and turn something on or off without meaning to. I keep thinking I should sell some of them since I'm mainly using Nikon Z's these days. But then I fiddle around with them and, well, they just fit me too well to get rid of them. Or I pop the 14/2.8 on an XP1--you can use the OVF of that camera with the 14mm lens and it frames fairly accurately. Sweet. Only 16mp but in B&W every one of those mps are gorgeous.
But, honestly, I never liked any of the XE or XT models very much and the X-Pro3 never was interesting. Dunno nothin' about the more recent models. And what's with the Fuji half-frame? That's just...wrong. But I don't build cameras. Fuji seems to hit the right notes for a lot of people. They're not building cameras for me but I'm not their target audience. I haven't bought a new Fuji in 10 years or so.
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But, honestly, I never liked any of the XE or XT models very much and the X-Pro3 never was interesting. Dunno nothin' about the more recent models. And what's with the Fuji half-frame? That's just...wrong. But I don't build cameras. Fuji seems to hit the right notes for a lot of people. They're not building cameras for me but I'm not their target audience. I haven't bought a new Fuji in 10 years or so.
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Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Quoting myself is such bad form lol. I just realized if I use my Fuji 27 in Sports Finder mode it will emulate a 35. Hmmm…
Bolo Kukus
en vacances, en permanence
In (almost all, certainly the ones I own) Fuji cameras DR is controlled by the ISO setting one is using.
I've tried all the DRs. Even Auto. My results were still not up to the colors and mid-tones I want (and publishers' art directors ask for).
Another annoying thing for me with the Xpro2 is (still in the present tense as I've not yet sold the beast) is to get the Kodak-like colors I like (and the selfsame art directors ask for) I've had to set the color at the highest point.
Ye gods, I've tried. Recently I took ithe XP to Malaysia on a whirlwind visit, used it at a few architectural sites, got quite decent images but the colors and mid-tones, meh. For me, too much effort for too little return. Others here do quite the contrary to me. Mister Yokohama gets brilliant colors out of his. I am, in a word, envious.
With Nikons, standard settings get the images I want, easily, no effort.
My conclusion to all this is Fuji make cameras for amateurs, and Nikons for pros/commercial users or the brigade of more demanding snapshooters (I'm have my feet in both camps).
For all that I've yet to sell my Xpro2. There is something about it... the Poor Man's Leica Syndrome?
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Bolo Kukus
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For me the Fujis excel at B&W. The Xpro2 with Acros and red, yellow or green filtering, give me by far the best monochrome I get from any digital camera. Which may well be why I nowadays use my XE2 so much, and also why I've hung on to the Xpro2 til now. Unfortunately, my few remaining stock photo sometimes-purchasers don't want B&W, they prefer color and they like Kodak colors. Which says it for me.
I reckon the XE line was basically manufactured as an amateur camera with some bells and whistles. As someone here has opined, it's staid and slow, which given its age and the era it was marketed in, should be no surprise. I bought the Xpro2 as I got a good deal on it but also the Xpro3 was too high-priced for me and limited in production for reasons Fuji never made public. Some are waiting for an Xpro4 but I won't be holding my breath on that.
Fujinon lenses are entirely another story. The 18-55 is by far the best kit lens I've ever used. Even the much-maligned 18/2.0 gives me impressive results, and the 14/2.8 is a wonder. I also have a 23/1.4 I like as I can quickly change it over to manual focusing, but I find I rarely use it as it's a tad too big, the 23/2.0 would be lighter and suits the Pro better but I can't justify owning two 23s. Ditto a 35/1.0 'Fujicron' I acquired at a mate's rate price, I've owned this lens for two years now and I've used it maybe as many times. 35 - the old 'standard' 50 - isn't my viewpoint.
Collecting gear is fun but, after so much impulse buying I'm now firmly into the idea that using it is even better...
As gear-gathering goes, well, why not keep the economy ticking over? Carrot Heads preach this like gospel and we as good little suckers have to play along. To do my bit in all this, I recently acquired a Nikon Z6 with < 500 actuations. One of the Made In Japan ones. With a $50 adapter to use my Nikon D lenses I'm again experiencing the joy being able to decide (and control) where my focus gets placed, and hyperlocal distance setting. Two things I had quite forgotten when I went from Nikkormats to Nikon DSLRs. And it got me out of my endless which-Leica-will-I buy dithering.
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