robklurfield
eclipse
I agree with Joe, Raid and FrankS.
While I'd love an Al t-shirt or coffee mug, we have to remember why we're doing this. I put some money in Robert's Al Fund paypal account already to go directly to Al without getting a shirt out of the deal. If the economics and logistics of shirts and mugs doesn't make sense, I suggest anyone so moved should make whatever contribution they can right into the account.
We can deal with t-shirts later or even exchange the art amongst ourselves as an iron-on DIY project. I was happy to send $20 knowing Al would get all of it. I'd gladly pay $30 or 35 even for Al's image on shirt or mug, but the $20 with no shirt or mug is better for everyone -- keeping with the spirit of giving, especially for our intended beneficiary. If Dave or others can figure out how to do this, I'm in and I'm delighted. If not, I still want to help Al.
I can't remember who in which of these threads had the idea of starting a kind of perpetual fund to help not just Al, but any other RFFr's in need from time to time. I think it's a great idea.
If we went with the iron-on DIY option, the project costs are virtually nothing, as the art can be sent electronically. Anyone who makes a donation of any amount can have the art as recognition of their donation. Al or others in need get all of the money. Perhaps this will make everyone happy. I guess we'd need permission from the owners of the images for this method rather than what we already discussed. You can buy iron-on media nearly anywhere you buy inkjet paper. We still get to have fun and show solidarity. All of the money goes where it needs to go. And no one needs to take on the responsibility for managing t-shirt orders and sizes and shipping ... etc. Just a thought. Sorry for rambling.
While I'd love an Al t-shirt or coffee mug, we have to remember why we're doing this. I put some money in Robert's Al Fund paypal account already to go directly to Al without getting a shirt out of the deal. If the economics and logistics of shirts and mugs doesn't make sense, I suggest anyone so moved should make whatever contribution they can right into the account.
We can deal with t-shirts later or even exchange the art amongst ourselves as an iron-on DIY project. I was happy to send $20 knowing Al would get all of it. I'd gladly pay $30 or 35 even for Al's image on shirt or mug, but the $20 with no shirt or mug is better for everyone -- keeping with the spirit of giving, especially for our intended beneficiary. If Dave or others can figure out how to do this, I'm in and I'm delighted. If not, I still want to help Al.
I can't remember who in which of these threads had the idea of starting a kind of perpetual fund to help not just Al, but any other RFFr's in need from time to time. I think it's a great idea.
If we went with the iron-on DIY option, the project costs are virtually nothing, as the art can be sent electronically. Anyone who makes a donation of any amount can have the art as recognition of their donation. Al or others in need get all of the money. Perhaps this will make everyone happy. I guess we'd need permission from the owners of the images for this method rather than what we already discussed. You can buy iron-on media nearly anywhere you buy inkjet paper. We still get to have fun and show solidarity. All of the money goes where it needs to go. And no one needs to take on the responsibility for managing t-shirt orders and sizes and shipping ... etc. Just a thought. Sorry for rambling.
FrankS
Registered User
It has been suggested previously, and I wonder if it isn't so, that Al may be embarrassed by outright charity, and would prefer to raise cash with a T-shirt and mug sale.
How about Cafe Press? A basic Cafe Press shop is free, people can order shirts or mugs or many other items, and Cafe does all the work, charges the credit cards, handles shipping to the customer, etc. A price would be set above cost and all the proceeds go into the fund. People could also donate directly as they are now. This negates the need to print in bulk, and have someone donate time for shipping/mailing, etc.
pesphoto
Veteran
ive made a mug thru cafe press, so easy and inexpensive, more money could go to Al
raid
Dad Photographer
It has been suggested previously, and I wonder if it isn't so, that Al may be embarrassed by outright charity, and would prefer to raise cash with a T-shirt and mug sale.
I have seen this suggestion, Frank, and I accordingly said that it should be presented in a way that simply is allowing Al to buy his own gift. It is a gift and not charity.
scottwallick
ambition ≥ skill
How many shirts are we talking about? My sister-in-law will be in Delhi visiting friends for a week, then is stopping over in Kathmandu for a family visit for another week or so before returning to New York.
Problems I see are (1) this is in March/April, (2) she'd be limited by weight as to how many shirts she could transport, and (3) not everyone wanting a shirt will be in New York, so again we have to mail things.
If each shirt weighs < 175 g (an 'average' weight according to The Google) then I could probably ask her to carry 20-25 shirts.
Another if. If there is a group of NYers wanting shirts, we could keep those separate for said pickup. Something to consider.
Problems I see are (1) this is in March/April, (2) she'd be limited by weight as to how many shirts she could transport, and (3) not everyone wanting a shirt will be in New York, so again we have to mail things.
If each shirt weighs < 175 g (an 'average' weight according to The Google) then I could probably ask her to carry 20-25 shirts.
Another if. If there is a group of NYers wanting shirts, we could keep those separate for said pickup. Something to consider.
thomasw_
Well-known
I have been hoping and praying that Al has a quick recovery! I am encouraged by the note on Al's blog by his son Jonathon.
This is a good thing to do for Al, whether it is just a straight donation, or a donation linked to some sort of "Al Kaplan Paraphernalia".
I think the best thing one person or a group can do for another is to lift his spirits. If this is so, I think Al would get a damn big kick out of many of us RFFers wearing the "Al Kaplan T-Shirt" or sipping from an "Al Kaplan Mug"
I believe he'd smile at some of the threads on RFF highlighting the Al stuff. And that is not a bad medicine.
This is a good thing to do for Al, whether it is just a straight donation, or a donation linked to some sort of "Al Kaplan Paraphernalia".
I think the best thing one person or a group can do for another is to lift his spirits. If this is so, I think Al would get a damn big kick out of many of us RFFers wearing the "Al Kaplan T-Shirt" or sipping from an "Al Kaplan Mug"
I believe he'd smile at some of the threads on RFF highlighting the Al stuff. And that is not a bad medicine.
Gadge
Established
Hi guys
I am in for a T shirt/donation
It seems to be getting a bit confusing though so here is my big idea.
Why not just ask for a donation to the payal account of a minimum amount?
Anyone who ponies up gets the Al Kaplan artwork by email! Then they can buy what the hell like they like and just put the artwork on it.
As the meercats say .....Simple tsssskkkk
Here is one that does Black T's ...
http://www.yourdesign.co.uk/index.php/personalised-clothing/tshirt
Obviously Mugs etc are available.
Gadge
I am in for a T shirt/donation
It seems to be getting a bit confusing though so here is my big idea.
Why not just ask for a donation to the payal account of a minimum amount?
Anyone who ponies up gets the Al Kaplan artwork by email! Then they can buy what the hell like they like and just put the artwork on it.
As the meercats say .....Simple tsssskkkk
Here is one that does Black T's ...
http://www.yourdesign.co.uk/index.php/personalised-clothing/tshirt
Obviously Mugs etc are available.
Gadge
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FrankS
Registered User
Hi guys
I am in for a T shirt/donation
It seems to be getting a bit confusing though so here is my big idea.
Why not just ask for a donation to the payal account of a minimum amount?
Anyone who ponies up gets the Al Kaplan artwork by email! Then they can buy what the hell like they like and just put the artwork on it.
As the meercats say .....Simple tsssskkkk
Here is one that does Black T's ...
http://www.yourdesign.co.uk/index.php/personalised-clothing/tshirt
Obviously Mugs etc are available.
Gadge
Great idea, Gadge. Everyone could look after their own purchase and shipping from the most convenient location/printing business which offers the quality, colour, and products each individual would like.
This is like the energy crisis we are facing. The solution is the cumulative effect of a whole bunch of small decisions/actions of energy conservation by individuals and numerous small scale renewable energy initiatives at the home or community level, not another nuclear or hydro mega-giga-project.
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
dcsang: "Those look good Mukul but shipping may kill us."
I had said, Dave, that iTasveer asked far too much for shipping. I can get them and then send them -- individually -- by the regular postal service, which costs far less.
If this is to be done, it must be done systematically. We need to know:
1. Printed area (width and height) on a tee shirt.
2. The relation between US sizes (for example, XXL) and Indian ones. Best to work in centimetres or inches.
I had said, Dave, that iTasveer asked far too much for shipping. I can get them and then send them -- individually -- by the regular postal service, which costs far less.
If this is to be done, it must be done systematically. We need to know:
1. Printed area (width and height) on a tee shirt.
2. The relation between US sizes (for example, XXL) and Indian ones. Best to work in centimetres or inches.
Gadge
Established
<Great idea, Gadge. Everyone could look after their own purchase and shipping from the most convenient location/printing business which offers the quality, colour, and products each individual would like.>
Exactly that Frank.
If no-one else agrees then I am still for a T shirt but it makes it very difficult to arrange with some wanting black, some wanting a mug etc, some people in UK or India or wherever
Art work by email and sort it out your self seems much easier as long as James agrees for his artwork to be used in that way? Plus it regulates how much Al gets per donation as a minimum.
Who needs all that effort. All we need is a Paypal account and agree a min amt per donation.
Ehhh voila.
Gadge
Exactly that Frank.
If no-one else agrees then I am still for a T shirt but it makes it very difficult to arrange with some wanting black, some wanting a mug etc, some people in UK or India or wherever
Art work by email and sort it out your self seems much easier as long as James agrees for his artwork to be used in that way? Plus it regulates how much Al gets per donation as a minimum.
Who needs all that effort. All we need is a Paypal account and agree a min amt per donation.
Ehhh voila.
Gadge
PlantedTao
Well-known
For what it is worth, I agree with gadge... as long as you can get the original artist to allow this method, then it makes the most sense and will generate the most charity w/o major hassle.
This is the way it would work with Cafe Press. If someone wants a mug, they order a mug. If they want a shirt, they order a shirt.
This requires no effort of any RFFer to box and ship or keep track of orders, etc.
Cafe Press charges a nominal fee for this, we would add an amount on top of their fee, which would be how the fund would generate.
Anyone who wants to just donate without getting a mug or shirt can just send paypal to alkaplanfund@gmail.com.
If this is ok with everyone, I can set up the Cafe Press store, I just need the artwork.
This requires no effort of any RFFer to box and ship or keep track of orders, etc.
Cafe Press charges a nominal fee for this, we would add an amount on top of their fee, which would be how the fund would generate.
Anyone who wants to just donate without getting a mug or shirt can just send paypal to alkaplanfund@gmail.com.
If this is ok with everyone, I can set up the Cafe Press store, I just need the artwork.
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
I'll send my simple design for a mug to anyone who asks for it. The high quality JPEG version is 489KB, too large to be put on this thread.
robklurfield
eclipse
This is great. We should all be pleased at the way this community effort is evolving. Hat's off to all those contributing time and good ideas to this effort.
This is the way it would work with Cafe Press. If someone wants a mug, they order a mug. If they want a shirt, they order a shirt.
This requires no effort of any RFFer to box and ship or keep track of orders, etc.
Cafe Press charges a nominal fee for this, we would add an amount on top of their fee, which would be how the fund would generate.
Anyone who wants to just donate without getting a mug or shirt can just send paypal to alkaplanfund@gmail.com.
If this is ok with everyone, I can set up the Cafe Press store, I just need the artwork.
scottwallick
ambition ≥ skill
If this is ok with everyone, I can set up the Cafe Press store, I just need the artwork.
I think this is a good idea. It's direct and outside of the initial setup, doesn't require someone doing leg work and shipping and negotiating, etc.
Whoever has the artwork, please pass it along to digitalintrigue so this can get setup.
Thank you, sir.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
I've got the artwork - I'll pass it along later today (at work right now)
Feel free to email me your email address and I'll fire it your way
the(dot)nexus(at)gmail(dot)com
Cheers,
Dave
Feel free to email me your email address and I'll fire it your way
the(dot)nexus(at)gmail(dot)com
Cheers,
Dave
This is the way it would work with Cafe Press. If someone wants a mug, they order a mug. If they want a shirt, they order a shirt.
This requires no effort of any RFFer to box and ship or keep track of orders, etc.
Cafe Press charges a nominal fee for this, we would add an amount on top of their fee, which would be how the fund would generate.
Anyone who wants to just donate without getting a mug or shirt can just send paypal to alkaplanfund@gmail.com.
If this is ok with everyone, I can set up the Cafe Press store, I just need the artwork.
James (DC)
Established
Scott, I sent the original artwork to David (dcsang). Either he can distribute the images or, if people want, I can when I have the time to do this. Let me know.
nonot
Well-known
I think Cafe Press is the easiest and most cost effective way possible. If it made sense to send these things from Canada, I can call in a favour from my friend's merchandising business. Whatever is ultimately decided, I'm in for 3 shirts and maybe a couple mugs.
I emailed Dave, should have the artwork shortly and will set up the Cafe Press shop...
There have been 18 donations totaling $593.39 USD made to the alkaplanfund@gmail.com paypal account.
There have been 18 donations totaling $593.39 USD made to the alkaplanfund@gmail.com paypal account.
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