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Going to Iraq....MP + 35 or 50?
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findwolfhard
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Essentials
Essentials
Don`t forget a good insurance!
Good luck to you,- best regs Wolfhard
PS. I would take the 35 aspherical
Essentials
Don`t forget a good insurance!
Good luck to you,- best regs Wolfhard
PS. I would take the 35 aspherical
sirius
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I like the sound of your project. I have honestly fantasized about traveling with a light kit and baggage, following the breezes and inspiration. I apologize for some of the unkind responses here. I'm not sure why people feel compelled to comment like that.
A basic question you should ask yourself is how close do you want to work from your subjects? A wider lens will mean you will need to get closer to fill the frame. A 50 can be intimate, but it produces a picture plane that is a little more flat feeling and more like someone focusing their vision on a center of interest. Bud Green on RFF and on Flickr does such wonderful work and I think he uses a 50mm summilux exclusively.
I would choose a 35mm lens. It's a versatile focal length. You can work close and indoors when needed. It's a natural environmental portrait length and has some inherent drama. I like the depth of field more with wide lenses as it helps me achieve focus more often when working fast. I often end up working wide and in low light.
I recently met someone who was a student of Steve McCurry. I was shocked to hear that Steve works almost exclusively with a 35 and 50. I would have thought he had a portrait lens in his kit. It was so encouraging to realize what can be done with those two focal lengths.
Finally, I don't think you will go wrong with either. Your mental eye and way of working will adapt to the focal length you use regularly.
A basic question you should ask yourself is how close do you want to work from your subjects? A wider lens will mean you will need to get closer to fill the frame. A 50 can be intimate, but it produces a picture plane that is a little more flat feeling and more like someone focusing their vision on a center of interest. Bud Green on RFF and on Flickr does such wonderful work and I think he uses a 50mm summilux exclusively.
I would choose a 35mm lens. It's a versatile focal length. You can work close and indoors when needed. It's a natural environmental portrait length and has some inherent drama. I like the depth of field more with wide lenses as it helps me achieve focus more often when working fast. I often end up working wide and in low light.
I recently met someone who was a student of Steve McCurry. I was shocked to hear that Steve works almost exclusively with a 35 and 50. I would have thought he had a portrait lens in his kit. It was so encouraging to realize what can be done with those two focal lengths.
Finally, I don't think you will go wrong with either. Your mental eye and way of working will adapt to the focal length you use regularly.
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kino eye
kino eye
I would take the 35 but would also take a second body and lens.
Cron
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ok, it is end of 2010 - does anyone know if he is back and healthy and has some pics of the project?
flip
良かったね！
I agree about 35, but when I go to the beach, I go with a cheaper body and lens. Source a Canon P and LTM 35 - or just a Hexar AF. Either costs less than the lens damage and body CLA.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
That's going to be one dusty UV filter on the 35.
kshapero
South Florida Man
I was out in the Everglades on a hot summer Florida day. At one point we stopped to look at some wildlife. After only a minute or two in the hot hot sun I could barely hold my all black M6.😱
Exactly. What happened in the end?
le vrai rdu
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take both 😀
You can then leave one in the bag but what if you just bring the 50 and finallyyou need a 35 ?
a lens is small and light 😉
My choice would be for a 35 mm, maybe a 35 color skopar which is very small and performant
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Phantomas
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Whatever you choose - good luck man! Pay no attention to the haters.
Ljós
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It's all about the integrity
It's all about the integrity
Well the OP started the thread in 2008, so anyone reading this is "late to the party".
My two cents, part of why so many gave what could be perceived as "snide" comments, is for example this attitude:
Which brings me to my posthumous "snide" remark: I sure hope the OP made sure that his rolls of Tri-X were not souped in inauthentic XTOL instead of ID-11 1:1 ! Too bad if the accumulated integrity were to have been washed down the lab drain... (Note: for those who do not know, the ID in ID-11 stands for: Integrity Developer.)
;-) ;-) ;-)
It's all about the integrity
Well the OP started the thread in 2008, so anyone reading this is "late to the party".
My two cents, part of why so many gave what could be perceived as "snide" comments, is for example this attitude:
Which brings me to my posthumous "snide" remark: I sure hope the OP made sure that his rolls of Tri-X were not souped in inauthentic XTOL instead of ID-11 1:1 ! Too bad if the accumulated integrity were to have been washed down the lab drain... (Note: for those who do not know, the ID in ID-11 stands for: Integrity Developer.)
;-) ;-) ;-)
JayGannon
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Or the project could be part of a series of photos where a Leica and Trix was used for the 1st half of the shots and to change to another system would result in a change in the visual style halfway through the essay......
Just a thought.
Phantomas
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I don't get it... Is Tri-X and ID-11 a no-no combo?
Ljós
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Phantomas, the other way around. Tri-X and ID-11 (1 part stock solution and one part water, shorthand: ID-11 1:1) is widely regarded as a standard, benchmark etc... So to take this quest for "integrity" to or over the edge, surely the choice of developer could not be left out... ;-)
Rogier
Rogier Willems
If the environmental conditions are a concern take a Nikonos V
N.delaRua
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Man, I cannot believe how heated this debate got. Everyone is right about it being an impossible question, but people ask similar question of this forum basically every day!
I think its an incredible opportunity to take powerful images. Furthermore, I have traveled with solely one lens, one camer, and one film. I think in the time frame I had I got some great shots. My setup happened to be an M6 TTL, 50 DR, and Sensia. That is all I own.
Were there times I wish I had another focal length? Yes.
I just don't understand all the fear of taking a camera on a trip. If you buy a camera with the audacious name of Mechanical Perfection, then it should be heavily used. In fact, it comical to me that anyone would fear taking an MP anywhere... Will it get dusty? Sure, but its better than leaving in its display box and just looking at it.
I really hope he posts his images; to me what he carried is infinitely less significant than the moments he might have captured.
I think its an incredible opportunity to take powerful images. Furthermore, I have traveled with solely one lens, one camer, and one film. I think in the time frame I had I got some great shots. My setup happened to be an M6 TTL, 50 DR, and Sensia. That is all I own.
Were there times I wish I had another focal length? Yes.
I just don't understand all the fear of taking a camera on a trip. If you buy a camera with the audacious name of Mechanical Perfection, then it should be heavily used. In fact, it comical to me that anyone would fear taking an MP anywhere... Will it get dusty? Sure, but its better than leaving in its display box and just looking at it.
I really hope he posts his images; to me what he carried is infinitely less significant than the moments he might have captured.
kansas_parker
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I'm currently in Iraq of my own volition. Granted, I am military, but I volunteered for this assignment and do not regret it. I don't share (and barely understand) the mindset that putting yourself in a potentially dangerous situation is somewhat deranged. This is a dirty dangerous world and sometimes, someone has to dirty dangerous jobs.
That being said (and sorry for starting off-topic), I AM in Iraq with a Nikon FE and a 28mm lens. Photography is not my job, and I don't get to take photos anywhere near as often as I would like to. While I don't have a 50mm with me, I think it would be too restrictive, go with the 35. BTW, the dust here is impossible to describe, you just have to experience it. Good luck!!!
The OP last signed onto RFF in late 2009, a year after this thread began.
I googled "Naos" and "Leica", comes back to this thread. "Naos": The term is from Greek, and was a designation used for temples of Greek religion.
I hope Naos is safe and happy, and Kansas Parker- stay safe. We have several RFF members that are deployed, and I think about them quite a bit.
I googled "Naos" and "Leica", comes back to this thread. "Naos": The term is from Greek, and was a designation used for temples of Greek religion.
I hope Naos is safe and happy, and Kansas Parker- stay safe. We have several RFF members that are deployed, and I think about them quite a bit.
Matus
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If I were him I would not care to post here how the project went - after all that sarcasm and mockery. I am just guessing, but am I the only one who came to think that maybe he hoped for a bit of more relevant advice and support apart from the lens question .. ?
It is a pity though. If he managed to finish his project I would like to see the results even though it is not really my favorite topic. I just hope he made it safe back to his family.
It is a pity though. If he managed to finish his project I would like to see the results even though it is not really my favorite topic. I just hope he made it safe back to his family.