oscroft
Veteran
I was just looking at this...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=180047557597&rd=1&rd=1
Did they ever make a green Zorki S(C), does anyone know? Or has this one just had its vulcanite painted? And any idea what the engraving on the back is?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=180047557597&rd=1&rd=1
Did they ever make a green Zorki S(C), does anyone know? Or has this one just had its vulcanite painted? And any idea what the engraving on the back is?
vanyagor
Established
oscroft said:Did they ever make a green Zorki S(C), does anyone know? Or has this one just had its vulcanite painted? And any idea what the engraving on the back is?
Yes. Doublecheck with Princelly: confirmed.
Do not know if the one on ebay is original though.
Btw, that one shows engaraving: "Festivalnyj" ie it has been produced in 1957 (unless it is a fake). I do not know if there were green "Festivalnyj" models. The fact that it is a Festival'nyj makes it rather rare.
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
Oh duh, same link mentions Youth Festival engraving. ha!
Screwy
All the gear no idea
The green finish looks original imo , Most Russian sellers tend to go for the more garish end of the colour spectrum when it comes to painting cameras 
oscroft
Veteran
Thanks for the info folks. Yes, I was really quite interested in it when I saw it - if it doesn't go too high I might have a go and take the chance it might be a fake (though it doesn't really have the look of a fake to me)
Kim Coxon
Moderator
I am sorry to disaggree but it looks more like a repaint to me. I know it is Zorki not a Fed but the 3 coloured Feds I have had looked very different from the after painted ones. This has the look of a later paint. The link to Rus-camera also looks modded to me. Their green one has the fabric skin that was used later. Possibly a Z5/6 skin?
Kim
Kim
oscroft
Veteran
What a shame it would be if someone had actually taken a genuine rare camera and ruined it by repainting it.I am sorry to disaggree but it looks more like a repaint to me
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
You might very well be right Kim. The pic of the green example in the link I posted above [to Antique Soviet Cameras] appears to be the fabric skin while the auction item does not. Neither of those pics are very good - it's just hard to tell. However, even if the cover had been painted/replaced, the Youth Festival engraving makes it rather interesting IMHO and if the cover turned out to be fake, I'd personally have no quams[sp?] about replacing it with something nicer. Good luck Alan!
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Screwy
All the gear no idea
Always going to be a problem with these cameras as is the fact that they come with ribbed nylon or vulcanite coverings Princelle says the S came in three colours but doesn't specify if that's in both vulcanite and ribbed nylon or just the ribbed nylon . Though having just re-read the description it is described as "an unusual green enamel finish"
Doh!!!!
There are at least 4 more Zorki festival,s on E*bay atm most appear to be around $50 (£26) BIN , So plenty of opportunity to grab an original .
Paul
Doh!!!!
There are at least 4 more Zorki festival,s on E*bay atm most appear to be around $50 (£26) BIN , So plenty of opportunity to grab an original .
Paul
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oscroft
Veteran
Yeah, that doesn't sound like nylon or vulcanite - it sounds like paintThough having just re-read the description it is described as "an unusual green enamel finish"
Yes, I was thinking exactly the same.if the cover turned out to be fake, I'd personally have no quams[sp?] about replacing it with something nicer
Thanks - I'll let you all know what it is if I go for it.Good luck Alan!
wolves3012
Veteran
Seconded - looks like a re-paint job to me too...Kim Coxon said:I am sorry to disaggree but it looks more like a repaint to me. I know it is Zorki not a Fed but the 3 coloured Feds I have had looked very different from the after painted ones. This has the look of a later paint. The link to Rus-camera also looks modded to me. Their green one has the fabric skin that was used later. Possibly a Z5/6 skin?
Kim
I saw it and was tempted too, but I wonder if that paint's gonna wear off easily and look a mess.
vanyagor
Established
Looking more carefully at the listing I should say I have never heard of a Zorki C Festival in green. Indeed colourd bodies had fabric skin rather than vulcanite (according to the few sources I have). So it might very well be a repaint. Also I would say the colour looks very smooth (no scratches etc) which is a bit suspicious.
However if it is original then it might be quite a finding!
Just a side note: I'm into feds/zorki's for only a month (a bit more) so I'm not an expert at all.
The price is still quite reasonable and after all collecting fakes is as justified as collecting originals
However if it is original then it might be quite a finding!
Just a side note: I'm into feds/zorki's for only a month (a bit more) so I'm not an expert at all.
The price is still quite reasonable and after all collecting fakes is as justified as collecting originals
oscroft
Veteran
Yes, it really does sound as if the green colour is a paint job.Looking more carefully at the listing I should say I have never heard of a Zorki C Festival in green. Indeed colourd bodies had fabric skin rather than vulcanite (according to the few sources I have). So it might very well be a repaint. Also I would say the colour looks very smooth (no scratches etc) which is a bit suspicious.
Hehe, yes, that's just what I was thinking - if it's faked but still really cheap, then it won't matter and will still be a bit of fun.The price is still quite reasonable and after all collecting fakes is as justified as collecting originals
oscroft
Veteran
It went too high for me so I didn't bid - did anybody here get it by any chance?
Adam-T
Event Photographer
Yep I did ........ I`ve been after an older Zorki and this one looked reasonable and in the UK..
I only noticed this thread after winning and there`s a lot of info here
.. Firstly, he describes the finish as "Enamel" - it`s clearly Vulcanized by the pics, someone who`s never felt a Vulcanized Zorki could easily mistake it for thick Enamel. Why someone has painted it green is a Different matter entirely (I`m sure the paint can be removed with Something) ..
When it comes, I`ll post detailed shots of the Festival Engraving and the finish.. I was Warned about FAS (FSU Aquisition syndrome) - Damn.. ;-)
I only noticed this thread after winning and there`s a lot of info here
When it comes, I`ll post detailed shots of the Festival Engraving and the finish.. I was Warned about FAS (FSU Aquisition syndrome) - Damn.. ;-)
Screwy
All the gear no idea
I had it in my watch list but thought you where bidding on it Alan , so Just watched.
£22.65 ($43.00) wasn't to bad a price really , At least you save a bit on postage £6.95 ($13.40) has to beat £13.00 ($25.00) every time and no 2-3 week wait for the camera to turn up
Paul
£22.65 ($43.00) wasn't to bad a price really , At least you save a bit on postage £6.95 ($13.40) has to beat £13.00 ($25.00) every time and no 2-3 week wait for the camera to turn up
Paul
Adam-T
Event Photographer
I think there`s a good chance that it`s a genuine Festival but the vulcanite has been painted green (Maybe Billy Joe Armstrong was the previous owner - LOL)..
What attracted me to it was that he`d checked the shutter for pinholes (must have taken the body off) and that the I22 looks in good nick (not the same using it with a scruffy black J8 with a dented filter ring or a CV 28 Ultron ;-).. All I need now is a FED1 or FED2 and that`s my FSU Aquisition Syndrome complete body wise ;-)
What attracted me to it was that he`d checked the shutter for pinholes (must have taken the body off) and that the I22 looks in good nick (not the same using it with a scruffy black J8 with a dented filter ring or a CV 28 Ultron ;-).. All I need now is a FED1 or FED2 and that`s my FSU Aquisition Syndrome complete body wise ;-)
oscroft
Veteran
Congrats - look forward to hearing what you think when you get it. (I'd decided to try a snipe of £15 myself, but was beaten first).Yep I did ........ I`ve been after an older Zorki and this one looked reasonable and in the UK.
This is only the start..... heheheheheheWhen it comes, I`ll post detailed shots of the Festival Engraving and the finish.. I was Warned about FAS (FSU Aquisition syndrome) - Damn.. ;-)
Ah, sorry if I put you off - I would have bid had it not gone too high for me (maybe I should have mentioned my limit here to avoid putting others off).I had it in my watch list but thought you where bidding on it Alan , so Just watched
Screwy
All the gear no idea
Adam-T said:I think there`s a good chance that it`s a genuine Festival but the vulcanite has been painted green (Maybe Billy Joe Armstrong was the previous owner - LOL)..
What attracted me to it was that he`d checked the shutter for pinholes (must have taken the body off) and that the I22 looks in good nick (not the same using it with a scruffy black J8 with a dented filter ring or a CV 28 Ultron ;-).. All I need now is a FED1 or FED2 and that`s my FSU Aquisition Syndrome complete body wise ;-)
I'm Pretty sure it's a genuine Festival as the year is right (1956-1957) and its engraved rather than silk screened , The colour has me intrigued as I have a FED 2 pre-series on the way in a very similar colour that looks like its the original vulcanite rather than painted but I will just have to wait and see .
All I need now is a FED1 or FED2 and that`s my FSU Aquisition Syndrome complete body wise ;-)
you do know that your being delusional now don't you ? you start off just acquiring the odd camera but then you start spotting bargains on E*bay or you find out that your Zorki S comes with 3 different styles of engraving and wouldn't it be nice to have all three
Your on a slippery slope Adam , enjoy the ride
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