rbiemer
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Kat,
I have been happy with the results from the Agat 18k I have. But it is not easy to get commercial processing. If you're doing your own, it shouldn't be any more trouble than usual. I believe there are/were half-frame neg carriers made for most enlargers.
The Agat has a fairly good lens and is scale focus. It also has an inter locked shutter speed/aperture setting. Set the film speed to the symbol for various light levels and the aperture and speed are set. Certainly overridden if you want or need to. The depth of field scale is a little different than others--no painted/engraved marks but a set of notches around the base of the lens. I've put dabs of paint on the corners of the notches to make them easier to see.
Some smaller and much lighter than my XA. And they have a hot shoe should you desire to use a flash.
Rob
I have been happy with the results from the Agat 18k I have. But it is not easy to get commercial processing. If you're doing your own, it shouldn't be any more trouble than usual. I believe there are/were half-frame neg carriers made for most enlargers.
The Agat has a fairly good lens and is scale focus. It also has an inter locked shutter speed/aperture setting. Set the film speed to the symbol for various light levels and the aperture and speed are set. Certainly overridden if you want or need to. The depth of field scale is a little different than others--no painted/engraved marks but a set of notches around the base of the lens. I've put dabs of paint on the corners of the notches to make them easier to see.
Some smaller and much lighter than my XA. And they have a hot shoe should you desire to use a flash.
Rob
saxshooter
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Thanks Jay! I thought the ovals were kinda different! Cheers, Charlie
John Robertson
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The Canon Demi with the two interchangeable lenses was a lovely little thing, might be difficult now to find a good user though.
John Robertson
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Chaika 2 (Seagull!) has four speeds + B 1/250;1/125;1/60;and 1/30, set by a horizontal thumbwheel at the back of the top plate, read out in a semi-circular window on the top.
Kat
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Ahhhh, so that's what it's for. Thanks, John!
John Robertson
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the shutter was very simple, but worked well. Mine had an extremely sharp lens, I must scan some of the negs and slides I still have.
Often the back plate of the shutter is not "blackened" mine was bright silver until I carefully painted it. Caused near terminal flare in some shots!!!
Often the back plate of the shutter is not "blackened" mine was bright silver until I carefully painted it. Caused near terminal flare in some shots!!!
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Kat
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We'd love to see samples!
John Robertson
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Give me a bit of time Kitty!!!Kat said:We'd love to see samples!![]()
here's one of our pussies, who got his tail caught in the car door recently!!!
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Kat
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Wow, not bad, not bad at all. Looks like a lot of details, esp with the hair and the bowl with kibbles. (not to mention, cute pussycat!)
John Robertson
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Kat said:LOL, no rush!
Wow, not bad, not bad at all. Looks like a lot of details, esp with the hair and the bowl with kibbles. (not to mention, cute pussycat!)![]()
Cute?? Cute?? Denzil does not do "cute", the other cat Oskar is the cute one, but will not pose for piccies!!
I scanned three shots from the Tschaika 2. They were taken a long time ago, taken on Tri X (I think?!) Yellow filter. I found three Bell and Howell cine camera filters which fitted, 17mm screw!!
One of the things I relly liked with the Tschaika and the Droog I also had at the time was the position of the shutter releases, on the front, I think they helped reduce camera shake a lot!!
Sorry if they are a bit funarial but they were the easiest to find, from 25+ years ago!!:angel:
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wilkens
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I got a fair deal on a working Dial 35 last summer. And I must say that its one of my favourite shooters ever. It´s fast, fun and the optics are nice and sharp. Besides that its quite good looking too.
Here´s some snaps:
Here´s some snaps:



John Robertson
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Canon Dial another nice 1/2 frame, there were some really super cameras in this format.
Makes you wish Leica had pursued this field with the Leicaflex 18x24. Very similar specification to the Olympus Pen F. See att.
Makes you wish Leica had pursued this field with the Leicaflex 18x24. Very similar specification to the Olympus Pen F. See att.
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John Robertson
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The Leicaflex 's optical path and rotary shutter are almost identical to the Pen F, which certainly was a lovely camera.
Someone told me there was an adapter which allowed the use of some Leica 39mm screw lenses on the Pen f and allowed infinity focussing. True??
Someone told me there was an adapter which allowed the use of some Leica 39mm screw lenses on the Pen f and allowed infinity focussing. True??
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I think this would just be possible, John, as the flim-to-flange distance for a screw-mount Leica is - if I recall correctly - 29.8mm. And that same distance for the Pen F is 28.95mm. So there is a bit of working room there. I think the big problem arrives with mirror clearance. Some lenses may work, and others not, depending on any bits that protrude into the mirror box. I'm not aware of any suitable adapter, and -in looking at the mount- it may not be possible, as the inner diameter of the Pen bayonet mount (at the recessed lugs) is only about 38mm.John Robertson said:Someone told me there was an adapter which allowed the use of some Leica 39mm screw lenses on the Pen f and allowed infinity focussing. True??
Kat
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Those cameras are beautiful, but I'm wishing for something small and light.
Wilkens, I love the colors on the first two photos. The Dial 35 is really my first choice, both for features and looks, but it's tough finding a good one for a good price these days.
Wilkens, I love the colors on the first two photos. The Dial 35 is really my first choice, both for features and looks, but it's tough finding a good one for a good price these days.
John Robertson
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Kat , another range to look for are the Ricoh models, some have motor drive like the Dial. ( Incidentally the Bell and Howell Dial is the same camera) There is also the Agfa Parat. range, the top models are quite nice with good lenses, the bottom of the range are simpler point and shoot.
Cale Arthur
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Hey Kat.. it does seem to be true that the Dial's are fetching higher prices these days, but i can assure you that they're well worth the wait. I've paid anywhere from $20 to $50 for the ones that i have, though they do go higher. As John mentioned above, look for one of the Bell & Howell examples, as they're the same camera as the Canon, but usually aren't as pricey. If you get one, i can email you scans of the manual if you'd like..Kat said:The Dial 35 is really my first choice, both for features and looks, but it's tough finding a good one for a good price these days.
As far as a 'properly functioning' Dial is concerned, this can be a tough nut to crack, as there's no way to tell what's happening until you load the film (which might explain why the 'film-tested' examples get a higher price). They all have one serious issue, and that is that over time, the gearing between the spring-wind and the film spool gets gummed up with old grease and basically just stops advancing. It's happened with all three of mine, but i've been able to repair them quite easily - i recently sent instructions on how to do this to another RFF member, so if you do get one, i can send that info to you as well. It's good to do this as a preventative measure, even if it seems like all's well - i've had zero problems with my Dials since this repair.
Hope this helps and good luck!
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reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
On this page at CameraQuest says that other adapters, Nikon, Canon, Exakta, Pentax screw mount, allowed inf. focus, but... "Lastly, also made was a Leica 39mm adapter, but this was good for close-ups only."John Robertson said:"Someone told me there was an adapter which allowed the use of some Leica 39mm screw lenses on the Pen f and allowed infinity focussing. True??"
Kat
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Cale, John, thank you for the encouragement. I just bought an Agat 18K (yay!) but will keep looking for that elusive Dial 35...This way I have assauged some of the GAS and won't be testing my EQ on the 'bay, LOL!
Cale, I'll definitely take you up on that once I have a Dial 35 in my hands.
Cale, I'll definitely take you up on that once I have a Dial 35 in my hands.
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