NicoM
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I picked up my Canon 5D Mark II yesterday after shooting with the Fuji X-E1 yesterday and oh boy do I miss that huge viewfinder and much snappier AF. Size wise, the Fuji wins hands down. It might even be better in the IQ department. It just doesn't feel that complete yet.
Maybe that's just me being silly. My full thoughts here: http://www.camcrunch.com/2013/04/having-second-thoughts-fujifilm-x-e1-canon-5d-mark/
Maybe that's just me being silly. My full thoughts here: http://www.camcrunch.com/2013/04/having-second-thoughts-fujifilm-x-e1-canon-5d-mark/
PrimeTime
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fwiw, I can relate:
I sold off all my DSLR gear a bit ago, but ended up with a 5Dc & 50mm lens & will be adding a 85 for portraits shortly. . . . I guess my plan is to use it for more planned shots/events.
I'd say on the move, a everyday camera, low profile camera the Fuji wins hands down.
Absolutely Loved the size of the X100 during my last trip, purchased the X100 just for that reason: size
I've thought about selling off the X100 but just when I sit down to snap pics to post up. . . . I put it away.
I guess what I'm saying is, different gear/tools for different jobs/projects/occasions.
Have fun with them ALL
I sold off all my DSLR gear a bit ago, but ended up with a 5Dc & 50mm lens & will be adding a 85 for portraits shortly. . . . I guess my plan is to use it for more planned shots/events.
I'd say on the move, a everyday camera, low profile camera the Fuji wins hands down.
Absolutely Loved the size of the X100 during my last trip, purchased the X100 just for that reason: size
I've thought about selling off the X100 but just when I sit down to snap pics to post up. . . . I put it away.
I guess what I'm saying is, different gear/tools for different jobs/projects/occasions.
Have fun with them ALL
NicoM
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fwiw, I can relate:
I sold off all my DSLR gear a bit ago, but ended up with a 5Dc & 50mm lens & will be adding a 85 for portraits shortly. . . . I guess my plan is to use it for more planned shots/events.
I'd say on the move, a everyday camera, low profile camera the Fuji wins hands down.
Absolutely Loved the size of the X100 during my last trip, purchased the X100 just for that reason: size
I've thought about selling off the X100 but just when I sit down to snap pics to post up. . . . I put it away.
I guess what I'm saying is, different gear/tools for different jobs/projects/occasions.
Have fun with them ALL
Ah oh how I wish I could! I'm not in debt or anything but I hate seeing my gear collecting dust when the money could be put towards something else! I'm not a pro so it's hard for me to have different kits for different situations.
If only there was a camera that could do it all...
den_sh
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I had a DSLR before buying X-E1. Now every time when I grab my friend's 5Dm3 I feel that I've made a great choice going with Fuji. No way will I be able to carry such a huge piece of machinery with me every day whenever I go. DSLRs do have their own upsides but they are not worth it for me if the camera will stay at home most of the time. Your priorities might differ and for your photography FF DSLR might serve better.
What kind of incompleteness are you talking about? I would love to have those 23mm and 56mm lens right now but I'm not in a hurry. 18mm and my old manual focus Helios 58mm f/2 lens serve me just fine.
If you miss OVF you may also consider getting external one to match your lens. I'm currently using Voigtlander's 28mm brighline viewfinder and it serves me well. Yes, it's not precise but after I've got used to it the framing error became marginal. It might not work as well with lens longer than 40mm (equiv) though.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Whatever digital camera I have used, from the X100, OMD, RD-1 etc, picking up my D700 has always been an eye opener. Suddenly I'm holding a camera that can genuinely do anything comfortably that the others 'manage' to do and no more!
Pity about the weight!
Pity about the weight!
Bike Tourist
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Funny you should ask. Last year I traded my X-Pro1 for a D600, thinking it would be better for my microstock work. There was no appreciable difference in that aspect, but I thought my creativity suffered even though the output of the D600 was great.
I really missed the way I related to the Fuji plus it was apparent that more lenses were being developed for it. This week I have reversed the deal, poorer but wiser. By next week I should have a lightly used X-Pro1 and the 18mm and 35mm lenses.
I really missed the way I related to the Fuji plus it was apparent that more lenses were being developed for it. This week I have reversed the deal, poorer but wiser. By next week I should have a lightly used X-Pro1 and the 18mm and 35mm lenses.
user237428934
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Creativity suffered because of a certain type of camera? That sounds strange to me.
thegman
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If you like a camera, you're more likely to enjoy using it, and perhaps make more of an effort to use it. That may result in you getting photos you prefer.
Creativity is of course a highly personal thing, and it might be affected by a change in camera, or having a had a couple of drink before, it's going to be different for everyone.
user237428934
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I normally have more fun with a rangefinder but have more photos on the wall taken with the DSLR.
Bike Tourist
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I guess I need to carefully consider my comments, lest I be called to account for them. Your creativity may have absolutely no relationship to the equipment you use. Mine certainly channels in different directions. An extreme example: My little Panasonic LX7 as contrasted with my 2¼ wooden pinhole camera. Oportunities for creativity exist for both, I suppose.
I will concede your point. I will rephrase and say that I prefer to work with the Fuji as opposed to a big DSLR so my overall impression is that I can do more and better stuff with it.
newspaperguy
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Well said, Sir!
Michiel Fokkema
Michiel Fokkema
Altough I love the Fuji to death it's just not fast enough compared to my 5D2. For streetphotgraphy the shutterlag can be to long. Even with manual focus. For my wedding work it is the same thing. Not fast enough. It's a pity. I'dlove to dithc the Canon's and go Fuji all the way. Lets hope the second version of the Fujis will be fast enough for me.
Eric T
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Sometimes speed isn't important. When it isn't, not only do I not use my 5D2, I don't use my XP1 either. I reach for my Sigma DP2m. On a tripod at ISO 100 and f/8, the sharpness is astounding.
Axel
singleshooter
...If only there was a camera that could do it all...
I had similar thoughts before I bought my Sony slt a37.
A possible way to join rangefinderfeel and DSLR-snappieness may
be a NEX7.
But I am not shure yet. So long I am very happy with my X10 and
the "can-all-others a37".
My Canongear went in other hands because the lack of a tilting Display, too much noise
and the lack of a snappy liveview.
gavinlg
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I had an x100 for 2 years, and had the x-pro1 and all 3 lenses on loan from fuji Aus for a few weeks.
I loved the x-pro1, but in the end something that gets me everytime is sensor size. I really like a full sized sensor over the aps-c one. I bought a 5d3, and it's a really really good camera. It feels like a digital version of the 1v. Canon files, while not as good as the sony sensor cameras for lifting shadows 5 stops (and ridiculous stuff like that), have the best skin tones and overall neutral color balance. I also love the canon lenses. The setup is pretty compact with the 40mm pancake - and not really any bigger than the x-pro1 - although it is a lot heavier.
Down the track I'll probably buy the x-pro though - when you use it, it really makes you feel good. It's my ultimate form for a camera. Maybe I should just buy an m9. Meh.
I loved the x-pro1, but in the end something that gets me everytime is sensor size. I really like a full sized sensor over the aps-c one. I bought a 5d3, and it's a really really good camera. It feels like a digital version of the 1v. Canon files, while not as good as the sony sensor cameras for lifting shadows 5 stops (and ridiculous stuff like that), have the best skin tones and overall neutral color balance. I also love the canon lenses. The setup is pretty compact with the 40mm pancake - and not really any bigger than the x-pro1 - although it is a lot heavier.
Down the track I'll probably buy the x-pro though - when you use it, it really makes you feel good. It's my ultimate form for a camera. Maybe I should just buy an m9. Meh.
kuzano
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My Fuji IS a DSLR....
My Fuji IS a DSLR....
Sorry, but the excessive marketing and pricing from Fuji over the past few years, (since the Bessa III Folder) has kept me out of the market for anything Fuji...sort of.
For my needs, and for a small camera, I am ecstatic about the Olympus PEN cameras. And particularly so about my new PEN E-PL5 which cost me $500 with lens and lens interchangeability to almost every legacy lens in the market with proper adaptors, not to mention the progress in fast primes from Panasonic/Olympus native to the camera. The new Sony 16Mp sensor used in the EM-5, works it's same wonders in the PEN.
However, for my DSLR needs, I grab my Fujifilm S5 Pro. It's a real shame that Fujifilm abandoned the DSLR market (No S6 Pro or beyond), and that may be part of my staying away from Fujifilms products in the pseudo rangefinder fixed lens style. Just can't see it.
But I really like my S5 Pro(s)...In fact, picking up another this Wednesday. The wide dynamic range and the Super CCD sensor were great, and still are for me.
Built on the Nikon D200 chassis, I recently sold one with 254,000 shutter count and still working great according to the guy I sold it to. Uses all Nikon F mount lenses either manual or Auto focus.
My Fuji IS a DSLR....
Sorry, but the excessive marketing and pricing from Fuji over the past few years, (since the Bessa III Folder) has kept me out of the market for anything Fuji...sort of.
For my needs, and for a small camera, I am ecstatic about the Olympus PEN cameras. And particularly so about my new PEN E-PL5 which cost me $500 with lens and lens interchangeability to almost every legacy lens in the market with proper adaptors, not to mention the progress in fast primes from Panasonic/Olympus native to the camera. The new Sony 16Mp sensor used in the EM-5, works it's same wonders in the PEN.
However, for my DSLR needs, I grab my Fujifilm S5 Pro. It's a real shame that Fujifilm abandoned the DSLR market (No S6 Pro or beyond), and that may be part of my staying away from Fujifilms products in the pseudo rangefinder fixed lens style. Just can't see it.
But I really like my S5 Pro(s)...In fact, picking up another this Wednesday. The wide dynamic range and the Super CCD sensor were great, and still are for me.
Built on the Nikon D200 chassis, I recently sold one with 254,000 shutter count and still working great according to the guy I sold it to. Uses all Nikon F mount lenses either manual or Auto focus.
f16sunshine
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Still love the 5Dii.
It's the Zuiko and Zeiss lenses I use on them and that great big VF.
It's my best digital manual focus option now that I do not own a digital M.
EVF's are just not there yet for manual focus imo.
It's the Zuiko and Zeiss lenses I use on them and that great big VF.
It's my best digital manual focus option now that I do not own a digital M.
EVF's are just not there yet for manual focus imo.
willie_901
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Two years ago I started using the X100 and a year ago I added a X-Pro 1.
Since then, the only time I have used my DSLR bodies (D700) is for a couple of family events where I wanted bounce an on-camera strobe and use TTL.
I can't imagine returning to a DSLR for the camera I carry everywhere I go.
I do use the DSLRs for commercial work for several reasons. But the camera is on a tripod 99% of the time.
I actually had my first X-Pro 1 photo published in an ad recently. I was taking a twilight shot of a large home and the D700 was on a tripod. I took some shots every 5 minutes or so as the light changed. I could not find a composition I liked because of some small trees inbetween me and the house. When the light was sweetest, I grabbed the X-Pro 1 - 28/2 out of my shoulder bag an walked around taking several alternative compositions. I delivered the fixed D700 image and the best Fuji image. The client chose the Fuji shot. I could have easily removed the D700 from the tripod and waked around with it. But it is harder to keep it level (for me) because you have to push a button, compose and press the shutter simultaneously; and iit is much heavier. The XP1 displays the level in the EVF constantly and is much easier to hold level because it is so light. This only means I'm too lazy to to carry two D700 bodies or move the larger camera around once it is set up. Obviously both cameras can produce excellent results.
Since then, the only time I have used my DSLR bodies (D700) is for a couple of family events where I wanted bounce an on-camera strobe and use TTL.
I can't imagine returning to a DSLR for the camera I carry everywhere I go.
I do use the DSLRs for commercial work for several reasons. But the camera is on a tripod 99% of the time.
I actually had my first X-Pro 1 photo published in an ad recently. I was taking a twilight shot of a large home and the D700 was on a tripod. I took some shots every 5 minutes or so as the light changed. I could not find a composition I liked because of some small trees inbetween me and the house. When the light was sweetest, I grabbed the X-Pro 1 - 28/2 out of my shoulder bag an walked around taking several alternative compositions. I delivered the fixed D700 image and the best Fuji image. The client chose the Fuji shot. I could have easily removed the D700 from the tripod and waked around with it. But it is harder to keep it level (for me) because you have to push a button, compose and press the shutter simultaneously; and iit is much heavier. The XP1 displays the level in the EVF constantly and is much easier to hold level because it is so light. This only means I'm too lazy to to carry two D700 bodies or move the larger camera around once it is set up. Obviously both cameras can produce excellent results.
GaryLH
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I never got rid of my Nikon dslr. I used it for long tele work and macro.. Rarely did I ever need the faster af speed. But I recently switched To a Olympus omd for this type of work. The ibis is the best I have ever encountered. But for normal everyday usage it gets down to one of the following.
- Fuji x for general usage
- dp Merrill mainly for b&w and iso 1600 (some color at iso 100-400)
- rx100 pocket go everywhere - soon to be replaced by Ricoh grd
- Ricoh gxr m module when I feel like using legacy rf lens (not using as much anymore)
I will probably start getting selling off the Nikon gear eventually or give it away to niece and nephews.
For myself, I don't really see going back to traditional dslr or even full frame anything. Pretty happy w/ apsc and m43 right now. For me it represents the sweet spot..
I had toyed w/ getting a d600 or 800 when the used price market hit my buy price, but since getting omd, have not even reconsidered it.
If speedbooster ever makes a Nikon to Fuji adapter.. I would not mind experimenting..but that is off topic
Gary
Ps.. Just looking at my past history I would project my long term usage trend maybe
- Fuji x around 35-40%
- DP Merrill around 25-30%
- omd maybe 20%
- rx100 or Ricoh GRD V 15-20%
- Ricoh gxr and my film cameras could end up 5% or less
- Fuji x for general usage
- dp Merrill mainly for b&w and iso 1600 (some color at iso 100-400)
- rx100 pocket go everywhere - soon to be replaced by Ricoh grd
- Ricoh gxr m module when I feel like using legacy rf lens (not using as much anymore)
I will probably start getting selling off the Nikon gear eventually or give it away to niece and nephews.
For myself, I don't really see going back to traditional dslr or even full frame anything. Pretty happy w/ apsc and m43 right now. For me it represents the sweet spot..
I had toyed w/ getting a d600 or 800 when the used price market hit my buy price, but since getting omd, have not even reconsidered it.
If speedbooster ever makes a Nikon to Fuji adapter.. I would not mind experimenting..but that is off topic
Gary
Ps.. Just looking at my past history I would project my long term usage trend maybe
- Fuji x around 35-40%
- DP Merrill around 25-30%
- omd maybe 20%
- rx100 or Ricoh GRD V 15-20%
- Ricoh gxr and my film cameras could end up 5% or less
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NicoM
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I think that there is some validity to his statement. I feel that people work and think better when they're around things, and use tools that inspire them. I do agree though that you should not blame lack/suffering creativity to gear.