TTL
Member
Have Voigtlander 75mm & 95mm lenses. PLEASE SUGGEST companion lenses small & lite.
I own Voigtlander 75mm 2.5 and 95mm 3.5 oldest first versions of these lenses that are small and lite. So what are the best of the Voigtlander line in lite lenses to carry with the 75mm and 95mm that I already have, but NOT having harsh bokeh?
I need matching 50mm, 35mm, 28mm, 21mm lenses with a classic look.
Want lite weight lenses - not the 2.0 APO or 1.2 piggy lenses
Do not want harsh nervous geometric bokeh. The 40mmm 1.4's have harsh bokeh. The 35mm 1.7 has harsh bokeh.
The 50mm 1.5 has harsh swirl bokeh (I hear it makes babies cry) - but the FIRST version screw mount MAY NOT have swirl bokeh? Does anyone know about the version 1 screw mount 50mm 1.5 and its bokeh?
What about the 28's and other 35's and 50's?
The two places you see harsh bokeh is on leaves of trees in a far background or city lights in the far background.
I own Voigtlander 75mm 2.5 and 95mm 3.5 oldest first versions of these lenses that are small and lite. So what are the best of the Voigtlander line in lite lenses to carry with the 75mm and 95mm that I already have, but NOT having harsh bokeh?
I need matching 50mm, 35mm, 28mm, 21mm lenses with a classic look.
Want lite weight lenses - not the 2.0 APO or 1.2 piggy lenses
Do not want harsh nervous geometric bokeh. The 40mmm 1.4's have harsh bokeh. The 35mm 1.7 has harsh bokeh.
The 50mm 1.5 has harsh swirl bokeh (I hear it makes babies cry) - but the FIRST version screw mount MAY NOT have swirl bokeh? Does anyone know about the version 1 screw mount 50mm 1.5 and its bokeh?
What about the 28's and other 35's and 50's?
The two places you see harsh bokeh is on leaves of trees in a far background or city lights in the far background.
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
Lots of folks here think very highly of the 28/3.5 Voigtlander. Also the 35/2.5 Voigltlander (Classic or Pancake). All are screw mount. I haven't noticed harsh bokeh with these, but that's not a big deal for me. I will let others comment about that.
Ronald M
Veteran
Love my 50 2.0 ELMAR M or plain Elmar from 1960. 35 2.0 Version 3 or 4. My 28 is 2.8 just before recent up date. If you are fussy, probably not for you.
TTL
Member
I am looking for other Voigtlander lenses as companions.
Already have a full house of Leica lenses.
Already have a full house of Leica lenses.
TTL
Member
Lots of folks here think very highly of the 28/3.5 Voigtlander. Also the 35/2.5 Voigltlander (Classic or Pancake). All are screw mount. I haven't noticed harsh bokeh with these, but that's not a big deal for me. I will let others comment about that.
Thank you I will look it up on the net.
drew.saunders
Well-known
I had the LTM 50/1.5 Nokton and replaced it with the first version of the VM 50/1.5 Nokton. Other than the minimum focusing distance change from 1m to 0.7m, which is the primary reason I changed, I think they're optically identical. I don't shoot the M6ttl enough to justify buying the 3rd version of this lens.
Here's a shot with the LTM:
UK12-35 by Drew Saunders, on Flickr
And here's a shot with the VM version 1:
11-1-14-12 by Drew Saunders, on Flickr
I'll let you decide what you think of the out of focus areas.
Here's a video comparing two 50/3.5 Heliar and one 50/2.0 Heliar: https://youtu.be/4UoL6CxhHX0
If you really want small and light, one of the Heliars is going to be a better choice. The 50/1.5 isn't huge, but it's not small.
I have the 21/4 Color Skopar in M mount. It's tiny! If you shoot film and have huge hands like I do, expect to take a few photos of your fingers.I don't know how well it works on digital if that's a concern of yours, apparently the new 21/3.5 is better suited to digital. There's not much out of focus with a 21mm lens at f/4, and even less so when stopped down. Here's a shot I took with it:
5-21-11-R1-13 by Drew Saunders, on Flickr
Drew
Here's a shot with the LTM:

And here's a shot with the VM version 1:

I'll let you decide what you think of the out of focus areas.
Here's a video comparing two 50/3.5 Heliar and one 50/2.0 Heliar: https://youtu.be/4UoL6CxhHX0
If you really want small and light, one of the Heliars is going to be a better choice. The 50/1.5 isn't huge, but it's not small.
I have the 21/4 Color Skopar in M mount. It's tiny! If you shoot film and have huge hands like I do, expect to take a few photos of your fingers.I don't know how well it works on digital if that's a concern of yours, apparently the new 21/3.5 is better suited to digital. There's not much out of focus with a 21mm lens at f/4, and even less so when stopped down. Here's a shot I took with it:

Drew
TTL
Member
Drew... thanks for 50 1.5 info.
Is there a difference optically between the various 1.5's?
I thought they had harsh swirl bokeh but maybe not in the first screw mount version. What do you think? The boke in you b&w foliage shot is ok.
Is there a difference optically between the various 1.5's?
I thought they had harsh swirl bokeh but maybe not in the first screw mount version. What do you think? The boke in you b&w foliage shot is ok.
TTL
Member
Love my 50 2.0 ELMAR M or plain Elmar from 1960. 35 2.0 Version 3 or 4. My 28 is 2.8 just before recent up date. If you are fussy, probably not for you.
Yes Elmar is loved.
TTL
Member
Looks like the 35mm 2.5 pancake II (M version) is for me...
But I still need an affordable 50mm or 40mm and with the smoothest bokeh.
But I still need an affordable 50mm or 40mm and with the smoothest bokeh.
TTL
Member
Maybe 35mm 1.4 would do the job of lite with ok bokeh?
bluesun267
Well-known
Color-Skopar 50mm f2.5 LTM is an excellent lens (sorry but I can't remember anything that stands out about its bokeh) and it certainly fits the bill of small and light
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
I would forget the 28mm and 21mm lenses and go for a classic Canon 25mm f3.5 lens.
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
What are you shooting this on? Digital or film? Any of the older LTM 2.5 to 3.5 CV lenses are lite small and darn sharp.
TTL
Member
Many thanks i will look all suggestions up. 35mm 2.5 is probably a best.
Will be shooting film and digital.
Will be shooting film and digital.
Coldkennels
Barnack-toting Brit.
I've been a bit obsessed with Voigtlander's LTM 28/3.5 over the last year or so. Very compact lens, short and fast focusing throw, flare resistant and just the right amount of contrast for me. Tough to talk about bokeh rendering as it's a relatively slow wide angle - even wide-open you don't get a lot of out of focus areas, but what there is never looks objectionable or harsh. It's also pretty good into the corners (on film at least - I've not tried it on full-frame digital) compared to other 28mm lenses I've used in LTM and Pentax K mount.

A walk in the woods. by Tony Gale, on Flickr

A walk in the woods. by Tony Gale, on Flickr
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