It's a great camera, especially at that price, but I never got on w/ it. I pulled mine out of the box, fired the shutter, took some photos of it, and put it back in the box and sold it. The mirror slap was just too much. I ended up w/ an 8008s and loved it. My last one came from KEH and I bought it for $27! Fantastic camera. I also loved the F4s, but w/ an 80 -200 2.8D zoom you'll need to bulk up your muscles. None of my MF cameras weighs anywhere near what that setup weighed.