retow
Well-known
Sorry, guys, but also the alleged buyer's story sounds more than fishy. Wants to buy a USD 4000 item from a seller with zero feedback, although he claims to have done hundreds of deals on e-bay, come on.........
Then he goes on a mission to "smoke the other guy out", gets USD 4000 in cash , insits on meeting etc, what a bizzare story. Something does not sound right here.
Then he goes on a mission to "smoke the other guy out", gets USD 4000 in cash , insits on meeting etc, what a bizzare story. Something does not sound right here.
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boxerjim
Newbie
I Bid too
I Bid too
Eric,
if it helps any I bid on that auction up to 700, which is what I was willing to lose on the chance of it being an honest auction. I just joined up here, and the rest of the story is before me. The guy was not above board, the other items he had listed were random high priced items, either he was selling stolen goods or just scamming, I have been on ebay since 1999 and can tell you I have about given up. There are too many crooks on there now. It once was a good place like this appears, to swap gear with like minded people. Now it is commercial, and seedy.
Thus ends my first post.
Jim
I Bid too
Eric,
if it helps any I bid on that auction up to 700, which is what I was willing to lose on the chance of it being an honest auction. I just joined up here, and the rest of the story is before me. The guy was not above board, the other items he had listed were random high priced items, either he was selling stolen goods or just scamming, I have been on ebay since 1999 and can tell you I have about given up. There are too many crooks on there now. It once was a good place like this appears, to swap gear with like minded people. Now it is commercial, and seedy.
Thus ends my first post.
Jim
bob338
Well-known
at the risk of sounding like a d*ck, i wouldn't meet you either. why would i risk being followed and mugged after i got the money from you? did the seller list 'local pick up' as an option? if not, you have no right to assume they would want to waste their time meeting you. maybe, just maybe, the guy has other things he wants to do with his time. i'm not saying it isn't a scam, but you aren't acting in good faith either.
i can tell you from experience that reporting it to the authorities is a complete waste of time. i won an auction for an m6 with a couple of lenses for $1200 a few weeks ago. i paid via paypal and the seller refused to complete the sale saying he accidentally listed it as a buy it now. ebay suggested i report it to the FBI internet crime division and it would be forwarded to my local police department. i filed the report(thinking it would spook the seller into going through with the sale) and waited to hear from our local police. after a couple of weeks, i finally called them and they said 'you've gotta be kidding. don't waste our time with this kind of crap.'
let it go and find another camera to buy.
my .02.
bob
i can tell you from experience that reporting it to the authorities is a complete waste of time. i won an auction for an m6 with a couple of lenses for $1200 a few weeks ago. i paid via paypal and the seller refused to complete the sale saying he accidentally listed it as a buy it now. ebay suggested i report it to the FBI internet crime division and it would be forwarded to my local police department. i filed the report(thinking it would spook the seller into going through with the sale) and waited to hear from our local police. after a couple of weeks, i finally called them and they said 'you've gotta be kidding. don't waste our time with this kind of crap.'
let it go and find another camera to buy.
my .02.
bob
chippy
foo was here
couldn't agree more!
its absurb to send $4000 to someone with zero feedback and a stock picture that been mucked around with, or even bid on it all in the first place, unless you are willing to gamble the money, if your willing to gamble that much money you can afford to buy a knew one. on top of that, a frankly unbeleivable suspicious story about being in a wheelchair and as a result cant provide a digital pic of the actual item...sheeze doesnt that ring alarm bells as well...all to convient---anyone that has an M8 surely has a cheaper digital somewhere even if its a camera phone..and if his disability prevented him from taking a simply picture just how was he going to pack and send it.
clearly Eric was suspicious as indicated by his wanting to meet in person ect. but why would you leave it to the end to bring all this up
...it was clearly suspious so you shoot of a few emails-and see if you like the answers-get his phone number from ebay and ring to see as well.Bob i would agree that reporting to the police is a waste of time. the procedure we would take here if the item was of reasonable vaule and worth the trouble and/or money is to send a registered letter to the seller stating your postion and then going to courts to make a claim against him. they issue a summons for him to appear in court and the court rules (if he doesnt show the court auto rukes in your favour). in cases such as yours with a seller not going through with the transaction they have ruled that the seller is obligated to complete the transaction...they get stuck with the court costs
viswan
Newbie
It is a Scam!
It is a Scam!
I have been e-baying for years, and specialize in camera equipment. I can guarantee that listing was a scam. It has ALL the earmarks of one.....i have flushed out a few of those just like this one.... they are all similar, and very frequently high dollar Leicas.
Oris64 was right to not just send the guy the money, he would have been out his $4000.
It is a Scam!
I have been e-baying for years, and specialize in camera equipment. I can guarantee that listing was a scam. It has ALL the earmarks of one.....i have flushed out a few of those just like this one.... they are all similar, and very frequently high dollar Leicas.
Oris64 was right to not just send the guy the money, he would have been out his $4000.
As an ebay seller that's started with low ratings and high dollar items, COD with payment by money order or cashier's check would be more than acceptable than paypal with the fees involved, and it would protect both buyer and seller. I don't think I would meet in person since I would not want to walk around with that amount of cash, so that's reasonable. I would have told you to get a cashier's check and sent it COD, and bought a lot of slide film with the paypal savings
This was a scam. But ebay will probably do nothing.
This was a scam. But ebay will probably do nothing.