Helen Hill finally says Ciao ... it's been Fun

Malcolm M said:
Bettys (sic), ungrammatically, has no apostrophe, which is one reason I won't go there.
This thread does seem to have wandered off its original point. We're now on tea, via Vegemite.
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Roger Hicks once refused to respond to a post of mine [that was directed at him] because he said I’d made a grammatical mistake in my query and as such my post was not worthy of a reply.

So, now we're off of tea and on to grammar I guess.

All the best,
Mike
 
David Hughes said:
These days a lot of places sell tea and the approach seems to be as much profit and as little pleasure as possible; luckily in Wales, Scotland and Ireland the approach is more what you'd expect in a nice tea room. I was once on a cruise ship that stopped at Dublin and went into a tea room and found all the English passengers from the ship in it; we were desperate for tea without 24 hour bland music and tea bags and jugs of tepid water...

Look for tea pots and you should be safe. Small family run places seem best; hotels or tea rooms. With one exception motorway service stations are the worst, closely followed by those places were they have a machine you are expected to operate yourself.

The best experience was in Norfolk in the most ramshackle place I have ever visited (no two chairs matched) but the cook was an obsessed cake baker, then the Derwentwater Youth Hostel many year ago and lastly, and I'm glad I wasn't paying, the Grand Hotel Eastbourne. That's in order of price, nothing else.

Has anyone told Helen we are vamping 'til ready?

Regards, David

PS I like the idea of tea in ostinato form...
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PS I like the idea of tea in ostinato form..
David you obviously have far stronger bladder control than I.:D

In relation to your travel experiences I have been to Hong Kong a few times now and in pretty much each trip one of my first stops when I arrived has been to The Peninsula Hotel for one of its famous and fancy shmancy high teas. Loved it.

High tea at The Peninsula 2 by Life in Shadows, on Flickr

High tea at the Peninsula 1 by Life in Shadows, on Flickr

High Tea at The Peninsula 2012 by Life in Shadows, on Flickr
 
Malcolm M said:
Bettys (sic), ungrammatically, has no apostrophe, which is one reason I won't go there.
This thread does seem to have wandered off its original point. We're now on tea, via Vegemite.
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Isn’t it Betty’s tearooms. That makes more sense, doesn’t it, but don’t ask me defitively, I’m Welsh! 😂
 
peterm1 said:
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(How this ended up in this thread I will never know but it is one of the joys of free range conversing on RFF that topics wander about and take new and unexpected journeys all the time. I suppose it's like one of those holidays overseas where you have a loose itinerary - but fail to stick to it and instead keep taking side road diversions just to see where it leads you.)
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In my travel and life experience very oft the small roads, originally not planned in our itinerary give interesting surprises, even good photo opportunities 1

peterm1 said:
... I sometimes post over at Leica Forum which is Germany based I believe. While it is a perfectly fine site and the people friendly enough and certainly knowledgeable about Leica, it somehow seems much more structured and formal to a degree. It's a German thing I think. Try going a millimetre outside the forum rules and you tend to get called on it - and not necessarily by the forum moderators, either. And its not the kind of place, I think, where you can go to just shoot the breeze and have a rambling conversation online. As I say I have no gripes about it but the I have noticed the difference in "feel" compared with RFF. Which, I suppose is why I keep coming back here as my default forum site on photography and camera gear.
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Being half german myself (father was) I agree with this, I take part sometimes in the Leica Forum (and it is intersting and useful) but I feel it more mentally structures. On RFF there is much more variety both in thoughts and in the photographic results. I love this feeling of being part in this community.

peterm1 said:
Seany thanks for this. But I am afraid you missed my point a little. Firstly I was deliberately being a little silly about English foibles (which I actually enjoy very much - I just have a satirical kink in my mind and I cannot seem to shake the habit). But I would also say that having an essentially English upbringing myself I also enjoy poking fun at those English foibles. Poking fun at English foibles seems to me to be another English foible possessed by many English I think. It has always been part of the culture as far as I have experienced it (how on earth to you otherwise explain "Monty Python").

But the key point I was making was not about whether one has a cup of tea or a pot of tea (my "in-laws" in fact always asserted that a "nice cup of tea" is ALWAYS made in a proper bone china pot. None of those new fangled tea bag things for them!)

My key point was about the fact (in my experience) that the word "nice" always seems to be included in the phrase - hence "a nice cup of tea". And that term is usually used whether it is made in a pot or otherwise. The word also exemplifies for me that old fashioned middle class English value that the English had (and some may still aspire to) - that of being "nice people". Also exemplified in my Hyacinth Bucket reference and in this old Flanagan and Allen song from ww2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8YXU1Yrfq8

In fact no less than George Orwell wrote an entire essay about how one goes about making " a nice cup of tea" - he too used that phrase, his essay being called just that - "A Nice Cup of Tea" and in it he said among a long list of essential elements "First of all, one should use Indian or Ceylonese tea. China tea has virtues which are not to be despised nowadays — it is economical, and one can drink it without milk — but there is not much stimulation in it. One does not feel wiser, braver or more optimistic after drinking it. Anyone who has used that comforting phrase ‘a nice cup of tea’ invariably means Indian tea. Secondly, tea should be made in small quantities — that is, in a teapot." When you read the essay in its entirety it accords pretty much with what many "serious" tea drinkers still say today. It seems that the English tea ceremony used to be (though it may no longer be so strict) as convoluted and serious as the Japanese tea ceremony. (Though involving much less bowing) :)

My answer seems a little long but perhaps you can tell from it that I too enjoy a "nice cup of tea." (I will proselytize here a bit and say that my preferred "nice cup of tea" is a Chinese Tieguanyin tea - a form of Oolong tea which has delicate flavors but enough body to be somewhat like Indian tea which most of us tea drinkers drink every day). And I have to agree with my in-laws and Orwell - the best "nice cup of tea" always seems to be made in a pot and drunk from proper bone china tea cups. But that's another story. ;)

By the way (and here is the only camera connection I can possibly make to my post. Tieguanyin is named after the Buddhist "Goddess of Mercy" called Guanyin in China or Kwannon in Japan. If the name Kwannon sounds familiar to photographers, it should - it was the original name of the camera company we now know as Canon. Phew - got that out of my system. :)
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This is interesting, through RFF's members I can learn many things, like this "vegemite" I never heard about before. To know it exists does not change my life but it is one more thing in my luggage!

And being english not my native language I canalso learn something more about it, like how to say a nice cup of tea.

Now not sure if I could say a nice dish of spaghetti :)

Thanks you all to be in RFF !
 
robert blu said:
In my travel and life experience very oft the small roads, originally not planned in our itinerary give interesting surprises, even good photo opportunities 1

Being half german myself (father was) I agree with this, I take part sometimes in the Leica Forum (and it is intersting and useful) but I feel it more mentally structures. On RFF there is much more variety both in thoughts and in the photographic results. I love this feeling of being part in this community.

This is interesting, through RFF's members I can learn many things, like this "vegemite" I never heard about before. To know it exists does not change my life but it is one more thing in my luggage!

And being english not my native language I canalso learn something more about it, like how to say a nice cup of tea.

Now not sure if I could say a nice dish of spaghetti :)

Thanks you all to be in RFF !
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Thanks for this Robert. Although I grew up in an English type Australian household which greatly affected my outlook on life in many respects (mostly for the good I think) that was my adopted family. My birth father with whom I later in life was very happily reunited, had the family name Stadler and his mother's name was Schneider and he came to Australia after the war from that part of the world. He is gone now but he used to tell us that he was related to the actress Romy Schneider. I never knew whether to believe him or not as he loved to tell "stories". Some were true, some were.....maybe not. Though I would like to believe it as she was a "doll". In any event there is no getting past my part German or at least Austrian connections either. Its all a part of the rich tapestry of life, I guess.

PS Glad I could educate you about the pleasures and perils of vegemite.
 
People will be saying they've not heard of "Marmite" soon and then there's those Americans who have no idea what a teapot is. What is the world coming too?

Please hurry back Helen. The moderators are tearing their hair out and the thread is getting more OTT.


Regards, David


PS (Edit) I would like to add The Netherlands and Germany to the list of countries where you can get a decent pot of tea.
 
Dralowid said:
What in the name of anything that is sacred is 'English Breakfast tea'?
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I think it is Dutch, Douwe Egberts, but I am not sure of it as I never drink tea, only espresso from Lavazza prepared with a Vibiemme.

The Dutch have been drinking tea at their breakfast since ages. They were the first to bring the stuff from China to Europe. Didn't you know that?

Erik.
 
Ricoh said:
Maybe it would help fight Covid. ��
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Yes, that and builders' tea. Coffee is going the same way; once upon a time you asked for it by country, f'instance Blue Mountain Jamaica, and the grind or beans but nowadays they don't seem to do much more than weirdly named blends.

That reminds me, Ricoh mentioned "Rosie Lee" and I've often wondered who she was. I mean we all know about Tod Sloan... I just don't want to divert the thread into Cockney because of the versions on Google distorting things.

Regards, David
 
David Hughes said:
Yes, that and builders' tea. Coffee is going the same way; once upon a time you asked for it by country, f'instance Blue Mountain Jamaica, and the grind or beans but nowadays they don't seem to do much more than weirdly named blends.

That reminds me, Ricoh mentioned "Rosie Lee" and I've often wondered who she was. I mean we all know about Tod Sloan... I just don't want to divert the thread into Cockney because of the versions on Google distorting things.

Regards, David
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In keeping with this thread's tortuous path, I can only add that, with regard to the origin of the Canon name, at least it's not now spelled Qanon.
 
robert blu said:
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This is interesting, through RFF's members I can learn many things, like this "vegemite" I never heard about before. ...
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Many of us "Yanks" learned about Vegemite form this song:

https://youtu.be/XfR9iY5y94s

I traveled quite a bit in South Australia 2000-2005, but NEVER came across vegemite (nor looked for it). Someone in the USA asked me to bring some back, and I remembered on a flight back, and fortunately they had some single serve packages of Kraft Vegemite (like the butter or margarine single serve packages) on the plane, so I was able to offer the fine gift. That being said, food and wine generally were excellent in South Australia.
 
robert blu said:
In my travel and life experience very oft the small roads, originally not planned in our itinerary give interesting surprises, even good photo opportunities 1

Being half German myself (father was) I agree with this, I take part sometimes in the Leica Forum (and it is interesting and useful) but I feel it more mentally structures. On RFF there is much more variety both in thoughts and in the photographic results. I love this feeling of being part in this community.

This is interesting, through RFF's members I can learn many things, like this "vegemite" I never heard about before. To know it exists does not change my life but it is one more thing in my luggage!

And being English not my native language I can also learn something more about it, like how to say a nice cup of tea.

Now not sure if I could say a nice dish of spaghetti :)

Thanks you all to be in RFF !
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I agree with Robert on this issue. Thank you RFF members for your combined feedback and posting and sharing and keeping us interested in this forum.

Every RFF member I have met face to face has been pleasant and friendly and helpful, while some members are online friends who have become true friends with time.
 
robert blu said:
In my travel and life experience very oft the small roads, originally not planned in our itinerary give interesting surprises, even good photo opportunities 1

Being half german myself (father was) I agree with this, I take part sometimes in the Leica Forum (and it is intersting and useful) but I feel it more mentally structures. On RFF there is much more variety both in thoughts and in the photographic results. I love this feeling of being part in this community.
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LUF is okay in general with lots of good information old and new. But what puts me off about them is most of them have gone completely digital, so the threads are dominated by anything to do with the newest models, while the film side gets short shrift.

The same thing happened with our local photography club, and for someone like me who loves everything to do with film it was kind of disappointing to realize they had all completely gone to the idea that it was the camera and software that would make their photography better.

What I like about RFF is there is room for everybody, and you don't have to let yourself get buttonholed into one group or another. And there is always room for those that have left to be able to return.

PF
 
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