Bruno Gracia
Well-known
Thank You all, now I'm a mass... So Rolleiflex with Rolleinar are the best option? better than a 150mm ?
what about the Bronica 645? or The Contax 645?
what about the Bronica 645? or The Contax 645?
craygc
Well-known
...what about the Bronica 645? or The Contax 645?
Broncia 645: temperamental
Contax 645: expensive
FrankS
Registered User

Take your pick.
Bruno Gracia
Well-known
woooow!
How good is the Fuji?
How good is the Fuji?
Bruno Gracia
Well-known
thanks Ansel, so... what would be a fairy price for the 503CW , 80CF and A12 back?
I love the colour rendering of Mamiya 7 lenses but can't do close up, that's quite impossible, something like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kjten22/5488785484/
or this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oliviaoliviaolivia/10125268886/in/pool-hassyportraits
I love the colour rendering of Mamiya 7 lenses but can't do close up, that's quite impossible, something like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kjten22/5488785484/
or this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oliviaoliviaolivia/10125268886/in/pool-hassyportraits
Bruno Gracia
Well-known
furbs
Well-known
I've had a Mamiya 7 and 80mm. it does work for portraits, though I greatly prefer a Rolleiflex. The Rollei's finder is much better for portraits, in my opinion. I also prefer two extra exposures per roll; the 6x7 format wasn't worth losing those two exposures. Maybe for landscapes, but not for portraits. And with a Rolleinar you've got a great portable portrait kit.
Ansel
Well-known
Not sure where used Hassy prices are at now... check eBay completed auctions...
FrankS
Registered User
woooow!
How good is the Fuji?
It's lens is right up there with the other 2. All very crisp. I once did a small group shot, and the client wanted head shot prints of the individuals. I was able to enlarge those sections enough to do this with acceptable sharpness. I was surprised and impressed.
Ergonomics of the cameras are different due to their design.
2ndApplePie
Newbie
If you go with an older camera like a Rolleiflex, I'd strongly suggest buying one you know has had good, recent service. If you're going to be actively shooting it, they benefit so much from having an overhaul and it'll save headaches in the near future.
Personally, I used to scoff at the prices of a serviced camera, but I found out very quickly that buying a cheaper camera and having to get it worked on a year later ends up MUCH more expensive than just buying a serviced one outright.
Also, find out what "CLA" means to the seller. There are film transport overhauls, shutter overhauls, front plate control overhaul, etc etc.. all very different things. You don't want to assume (and pay accordingly) for a full camera overhaul if only the shutter was worked on. The big name Rollei repair people lay them out separately (Krikor, Harry Fleenor, etc) and I suspect it's a similar case for the Hasselblad people and others.
Personally, I used to scoff at the prices of a serviced camera, but I found out very quickly that buying a cheaper camera and having to get it worked on a year later ends up MUCH more expensive than just buying a serviced one outright.
Also, find out what "CLA" means to the seller. There are film transport overhauls, shutter overhauls, front plate control overhaul, etc etc.. all very different things. You don't want to assume (and pay accordingly) for a full camera overhaul if only the shutter was worked on. The big name Rollei repair people lay them out separately (Krikor, Harry Fleenor, etc) and I suspect it's a similar case for the Hasselblad people and others.
Bobfrance
Over Exposed
I have a Mamiya 7ii and a Rolleiflex 3.5F and they are both lighter and faster to use then any 6x6 SLR.
However I do find that when producing portraits the issue with both is close focus. With any lens on the Mamiya 7 the most you'll be able to fit inside the frame is from someone's elbows to the top of their head. the Rolleiflex perhaps gets a little closer but is similar. The difference with the Rolleiflex is that you can fit the Rolleinars, however the have a very limited range of focus as stated earlier in the thread.
If portability isn't a issue then for portraits I'd go for a medium format SLR such as a Pentax 67 or a Hasselblad. The standard 80mm lenses on these cameras are excellent and you will have a much more flexible focal range. You can also go for the fast 110mm or 105mm lenses which are both something really special.
Bob.
However I do find that when producing portraits the issue with both is close focus. With any lens on the Mamiya 7 the most you'll be able to fit inside the frame is from someone's elbows to the top of their head. the Rolleiflex perhaps gets a little closer but is similar. The difference with the Rolleiflex is that you can fit the Rolleinars, however the have a very limited range of focus as stated earlier in the thread.
If portability isn't a issue then for portraits I'd go for a medium format SLR such as a Pentax 67 or a Hasselblad. The standard 80mm lenses on these cameras are excellent and you will have a much more flexible focal range. You can also go for the fast 110mm or 105mm lenses which are both something really special.
Bob.
edge100
Well-known
Not sure where used Hassy prices are at now... check eBay completed auctions...
FWIW, I just bought a 500c/m (BGN), 80 C T* (BGN), WLF (EX), and 2 x A12 backs (both EX) from KEH. $1000.
mfogiel
Veteran
You seem confused...
This is what you get from 1.3 meters and 150/3.5 lens wide open on Pentax 645:

MF20122815 by mfogiel, on Flickr
This is what you get from a Contax 645 and Planar 80/2 wide open from about 1.2 meters:

20130504 by mfogiel, on Flickr
This is what you get with a Rolleiflex Planar 80/2.8 from close to 1 meter:

20080811 by mfogiel, on Flickr
This is from Tele Rolleiflex Sonnar 135/4+Rolleinar wide open from 1.4 meters:

MF20121110 by mfogiel, on Flickr
This is what you get from 1.3 meters and 150/3.5 lens wide open on Pentax 645:

MF20122815 by mfogiel, on Flickr
This is what you get from a Contax 645 and Planar 80/2 wide open from about 1.2 meters:

20130504 by mfogiel, on Flickr
This is what you get with a Rolleiflex Planar 80/2.8 from close to 1 meter:

20080811 by mfogiel, on Flickr
This is from Tele Rolleiflex Sonnar 135/4+Rolleinar wide open from 1.4 meters:

MF20121110 by mfogiel, on Flickr
Ansel
Well-known
If yo do decide to go with Hasselblad, 500CM is much cheaper than 503CW and just as good, in fact I prefer it as it is slightly more portable.
Bruno Gracia
Well-known
Thanks to Everyone, I will try to borrow any of these cameras and shot a couple of rolls.
I've use to have one 2.8F last summer, love it, just amazing, but the 80 and the 1m minim. distance seems to be more for environment anyway, I just love it so probably the best choice is back again to the Flex and buy the rolleinars set.
If I had the money would buy a Leica S2 or some phaseone
(just kidding, prefer much better the look of film)
I've use to have one 2.8F last summer, love it, just amazing, but the 80 and the 1m minim. distance seems to be more for environment anyway, I just love it so probably the best choice is back again to the Flex and buy the rolleinars set.
If I had the money would buy a Leica S2 or some phaseone
stompyq
Well-known
Go with a Pentax 67
TareqPhoto
The Survivor
Do you like these portraits???



Brian Legge
Veteran
Lots of options with respect to image quality. Portability and handling can be big deals though with some of these cameras. I wouldn't want to lug a Bronica SQA with 200mm lens around for too many miles. 
Rolleiflex 2.5F with Rolleinar 1:


Bronica SQA w/ 50mm:

Bronica SQA w/200mm

Autocord:

Super Speedex:


Rolleiflex 2.5F with Rolleinar 1:


Bronica SQA w/ 50mm:

Bronica SQA w/200mm

Autocord:

Super Speedex:


Bruno Gracia
Well-known
WOOOOOW Tareg and Brian!!!!
Tareg, those are the portraits I would live to do! But Brian, those yours... same way! gorgeus and amazing DOF!
Tareg, those are the portraits I would live to do! But Brian, those yours... same way! gorgeus and amazing DOF!
mugent
Well-known
If you can manage with the fixed lens, and it's an awesome lens, the GF670, if bought used, it's pretty affordable, and a pleasure to behold and use.
Rolleiflex is nice, but if you are used to RF, you may find the waist level operation a bit cumbersome, I know I did.
Rolleiflex is nice, but if you are used to RF, you may find the waist level operation a bit cumbersome, I know I did.
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