haempe
Well-known
I am thinking about thinning out the number of my lenses. 35/40mm is seldom used, so one of three must go. I will definitive keep the 35/2.5 color skopar, so I made some comparion shots with CV 35/1.4 sc and Rokkor 40/2 cle.
I must confess, the barrel distortion of the CV do not bother me.
Please tell me, which 2 of the 4 pics you prefer. All at f=2 on PolypanF@25 in ADX. No PP beside the crop.
Oh, of course there may be guessed which is which.
a)
b)
c)
d)
I must confess, the barrel distortion of the CV do not bother me.
Please tell me, which 2 of the 4 pics you prefer. All at f=2 on PolypanF@25 in ADX. No PP beside the crop.
Oh, of course there may be guessed which is which.
a)

b)

c)

d)

bennyng
Benny Ng
Seems to me like the top picture is from the Rokkor and the bottom picture is from the Nokton. I prefer the two pictures on the bottom.
Cheers,
Cheers,
zauhar
Veteran
The lenses are mixed up in each set? (i.e. one scene taken by two different lenses?)
I picked (a) for better contrast, although bokeh not as nice, I picked (d) for overall better sharpness.
At least that's my beginner's opinion.
Randy
I picked (a) for better contrast, although bokeh not as nice, I picked (d) for overall better sharpness.
At least that's my beginner's opinion.
Randy
Gary E
Well-known
B & D and I am guessing it's the Rokkor. Have you considered the speed in the equation? You'll have a 3.5 and 2.0 if you go this route. It makes more sense to stick with the same 35mm and have 1.4 & 3.5, but that's me YMMV 
rbsinto
Well-known
For me to tell you which I prefer is meaningless.
It only matters which lens you prefer that counts.
It only matters which lens you prefer that counts.
Darshan
Well-known
b & c are from the 35
haempe
Well-known
For me to tell you which I prefer is meaningless.
It only matters which lens you prefer that counts.
This is, of course, right.
I asked, because I don't expected this result of the comparsion.
As Benny said, a/c is the rokkor and b/d is the nokton.
Personally I clearly prefer the nokton for the OOF rendering and the moderate contrast.
It looks, as the nokton wears the "classic" in the name with right.
Thanks all,
Lflex
Lflex
Agree. B & D are much more pleasant to look at.
roadmouse
Member
I'd guess it's a matter of taste. I prefer a and c.
haempe
Well-known
I'd guess it's a matter of taste. I prefer a and c.
That's good.
Nothing is as boring as uniform taste...
ferider
Veteran
Before you decide, try a portrait without foliage in the background.
haempe
Well-known
Before you decide, try a portrait without foliage in the background.
Good idea, but I doubt I will use such a short FL for portrait.
Confession: It is the one stop what makes the decision.
I made the comparsion more or less to see, if the rokkor can change my mind with it's rendering.
But no, so it must go...
Stuart John
Well-known
I prefer b and d.
RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
I'm predisposed to the Rokkor. I love the size and the feel of that lens, but I have to say that the Nokton looks better in these samples, better oofa and more open in the contrast. However, I do not like a lot of distortion in the 35 FL, but I don't see much of that here. You're sticking with the Skopar, which is a smart move. I'd keep the Nokton as fast 35 for a low-light kit and use the Skopar in an daylight-type kit.
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haempe
Well-known
Agree. The ergonomics of the rokkor is better. I don't like the aperture-"ears" of the nokton, I never found them on the first take while looking through the finder. I also like the rokkor tab more. But I think, it's a question of practice.I'm predisposed to the Rokkor. I love the size and the feel of that lens, but I have to say that the Nokton looks better in these samples, better oofa and more open in the contrast.
I haven't seen that much of distortion with this lens as I expected after reading about that issue here on RFF. The distortion is there, but not that much that it bothers me. And for low light scenes... even less.However, I do not like a lot of distortion in the 35 FL, but I don't see much of that here.
CV 35/1,4 no PP

I will keep the skopar mainly for my barnack which is becomming more and more my daylight camera.You're sticking with the Skopar, which is a smart move. I'd keep the Nokton as fast 35 for a low-light kit and use the Skopar in an daylight-type kit.
DNG
Film Friendly
The lenses are mixed up in each set? (i.e. one scene taken by two different lenses?)
I picked (a) for better contrast, although bokeh not as nice, I picked (d) for overall better sharpness.
At least that's my beginner's opinion.
Randy
Ditto here too.
A/D but I did not like the Bokeh on B,
paulfish4570
Veteran
the color skopar is an excellent portrait lens, i am discovering.

haempe
Well-known
the color skopar is an excellent portrait lens, i am discovering.
Well, I dislike the 35 FL for portrait because it's perspectivical distortion... (Say you so in English?)
Not a problem in Your pic, because the subject is in the middle...
paulfish4570
Veteran
this is true, haempe.
imush
Well-known
I like a and d, which is of course from different lenses? The contrast seems to me just right in (a) and a bit too harsh in (c).
All of this is quite subtle and does not really warrant keeping both of them. Just sell the one that fetches a better price.
All of this is quite subtle and does not really warrant keeping both of them. Just sell the one that fetches a better price.
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