Help me find a Canon 7s or 7z

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Hi all,

I have a Canon f.95 lens that i want to try out, but i can not seem to find a 7s or 7z body.

I am looking for an excellent - mint condition copy, and i rather not go to *bay, I checked KEH, but the ones i want have wrinkled curtain.

Can you guys direct me of where i can acquire one, and what is the price for a 7s or 7z in the condition described.

thanks in advanced.
 
being a newbie on canon 7... may i ask if there is a big difference in the 7 and 7s models

also, KEH indicates wrinkled curtain- is that a big issue..

and is there anything i need to look for in purchasing these bodies..
 
zoom2zoom said:
Hi all,

I have a Canon f.95 lens that i want to try out, but i can not seem to find a 7s or 7z body.

I had the chance to use this lens a couple of days ago. Contrast is terrible to say the least and it flares. You will need to find a hood for it.

zoom2zoom said:
I am looking for an excellent - mint condition copy, and i rather not go to *bay, I checked KEH, but the ones i want have wrinkled curtain.

As are 99% of the Canon metal curtained cameras. The wrinkled curtains unless they are badly wrinkled will not in any way affect performance.

zoom2zoom said:
Can you guys direct me of where i can acquire one, and what is the price for a 7s or 7z in the condition described.

thanks in advanced.

If you are lucky enough to find what you want expect to pay upwards of $1000 or more..
 
The difference between the 7 and the 7s is the metering system - the normal 7 [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]has selenium cell[/FONT]s and the 7s/z has CdS cells. They say that CdS cells are more sensitive, but I get consisitant results with the selenium based ones too. It's rare to find the normal 7 with working metering (they fail over time, if exposed to too much moisture. .

Wrinkled shutter curtains on Canons are the norm, it's silly to write off a Canon RF because the shutters are wrinkled. Honestly the 50mm f/.95 is kind of a dog - not sharp at all. I'd go with a f/1.4 - one of the sharpest lenses I've shot with (contrast is terrible though).

I've actually got a normal 7 in near mint condition w/ 50mm f1.4 lens I want to sell, but the curtains are wrinkled.
 
Lonely Driver said:
The difference between the 7 and the 7s is the metering system - the normal 7 [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]has selenium cell[/FONT]s and the 7s/z has CdS cells. They say that CdS cells are more sensitive, but I get consisitant results with the selenium based ones too. It's rare to find the normal 7 with working metering (they fail over time, if exposed to too much moisture. .

Wrinkled shutter curtains on Canons are the norm, it's silly to write off a Canon RF because the shutters are wrinkled. Honestly the 50mm f/.95 is kind of a dog - not sharp at all. I'd go with a f/1.4 - one of the sharpest lenses I've shot with (contrast is terrible though).

I've actually got a normal 7 in near mint condition w/ 50mm f1.4 lens I want to sell, but the curtains are wrinkled.

The f/1.4 is a lot better than the f/.095 though.

I would go with the f/1.8 black lens. Sharpness and contrast were greatly increased.
 
Since you already have the big lens, you only need a camera. A 7 will accept the lens, of course. There can be a bit dimmer image in that VF, and the meter probably won't work accurately. The later 7s/sz will usually have a better VF image, and may have a working meter. The shutter curtains in any will almost always be wrinkled. As mentioned, unless badly wrinkled, this has little to no effect on camera usage. The less wrinkle the better, of course, but a slight wrinkle is perfectly normal and acceptable. To attempt to find perfection will be costly, and you will probably bend the curtain yourself on the first roll or film or two. It is very easy to do, and the curtains are very thin... but also very strong.

Ritz Camera sometimes has early Canon models. I mean the website, not the shops in the malls. I did buy a hood from them, pricey but also rare and hard to find. KEH is a good place, partly because of the warranty and return policy.
Kevin can be pricey, but also usually has very fine stuff. Other dealers are very spotty, as the cameras aren't really that common, except the 7.

You should be looking for a presentable camera with no major flaws and a slight wrinkle, since it will be one that will be used, rather than a shelf-queen.

I've found both my 7s models and my 7sz through eBay, without problems. One of the 7s is used along with my M3, and they are fine shooters. It has the slight wrinkle, and that affects nothing.

If you are fairly patient, one will turn up. Chasing close to mint/perfect curtains will not be easy, but will be very expensive. Advise is easy, but I also speak from some experience.

Harry
 
harry01562 said:
You should be looking for a presentable camera with no major flaws and a slight wrinkle, since it will be one that will be used, rather than a shelf-queen.

I concur - a RF with unwrinkled shutters means that it's unused. Sounds good in theory, but cameras should be dry fired every once in a while to keep everything lubricated.
 
colyn said:
The f/1.4 is a lot better than the f/.095 though.

I would go with the f/1.8 black lens. Sharpness and contrast were greatly increased.
I havne't shot with the f/1.8 at all, but I will vouch for that f/1.4 - the actual difference in speed is very slight so I can see going with either. Acutally I like the f/1.8's over the f/1.4 on my Nikons but only because they're semi-pancake lenses (totally different camera system).
 
Hi all..

i received the f.95 lens today and it is the TV version.. and it has a different mount.

Can you please verify if this lens will mount to the Canon 7 body or not..
 
Lonely Driver said:
I would think not. I'm looking at this adapter:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-Rangefind...ryZ30027QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and the mount mounts onto that and the rear protrudes too much. You may want to check to see if the mount is removable and can be converted back to LTR

yes, i removed the mount and here is what it looks like.. please see links below.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/118194055-M.jpg

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/118193993-M.jpg

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/118194089-M.jpg

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/118194036-M.jpg
 
but why is the mount on the f.95 lens that Lonely Driver link to ebay has different design and config. than the TV mount that i have?


the TV mount is uniform with no cut-outs.. unlike the standard f.95 lens..?
 
PM said:
since i havent used a canon RF... why on the f.95 lens, on the mount, there are many different cut-outs.. and my TV lens mount is not like that?

does the cut outs engage into the camera ? does your f1.4 lens have the same mount?


Maybe someone who owns a .95 can clarify for you, but I would assume that the cuts outs are so that the rangefinder wheel engages properly (in rangefinders, the coupling moves back and forth with the lens as it is focused). Still I honestly don't know and that previous sentance is pure subjecture.

My f/1.4 looks like any other f/1.4 - you can see pics of one here:
http://kevincameras.com/gallery/album2400?page=1
 
zoom2zoom said:
but why is the mount on the f.95 lens that Lonely Driver link to ebay has different design and config. than the TV mount that i have?


the TV mount is uniform with no cut-outs.. unlike the standard f.95 lens..?

I suspect one is an early version. The one I tried on a Canon 7 earlier this week looks like yours.
 
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