Sohox308
Newbie
Hello Im New to the RF's and new here. I have been looking for some answers about my old Canon? 
AND SO FAR THIS PLACE ROCKS
1. What year? ------------------- > IT'S A 1951-1952
2. What She Worth? --------------------- > IT'S WORTH ABOUT $200.00 BONES
3. And Most inportant what model? ------------------------ > IT'S A IVF
All IN ABOUT 3 HOURS, NOW WHO WANTS IT?????
Thanx Rogue For That Page.....
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Here are A few, yeah right a few differnt names people have givin me for my Canon RF need some real info on it.
IS IT A CANON AHHHHHHHHHHHHH NONE OF THE BELOW IT'S A IVF
My fault my hassle!
Here are some of pic of the old baby.
1. Top...
2. Front...
3. Back...
4. Bottom...
5 Bottom Open...
6. Top Full...
7. Top Zoom Big...
So here it is.
Thanx In Advance. K james Sohox308
AND SO FAR THIS PLACE ROCKS1. What year? ------------------- > IT'S A 1951-1952
2. What She Worth? --------------------- > IT'S WORTH ABOUT $200.00 BONES
3. And Most inportant what model? ------------------------ > IT'S A IVF
All IN ABOUT 3 HOURS, NOW WHO WANTS IT?????
Thanx Rogue For That Page.....
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Here are A few,
yeah right a few differnt names people have givin me for my Canon RF need some real info on it. IS IT A CANON AHHHHHHHHHHHHH NONE OF THE BELOW IT'S A IVF
- 1.Ivbs
- 2.Ivbs2
- 3.Leica screw mount. (i know it not this one)
- 4.Range Finder Leica COPY. ( look at the serial #5 Digits. A Repo I dont think so )
- 5. LTM
- 6. Rangefinger VI-T, VI-L VI-P
- 7.& finally Rangefinger IV-S2, II, III, IV.
My fault my hassle!
Here are some of pic of the old baby.
1. Top...
2. Front...
3. Back...
4. Bottom...
5 Bottom Open...
6. Top Full...
7. Top Zoom Big...
So here it is.
Thanx In Advance. K james Sohox308
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Sohox308
Newbie
Sorry About the first post!!
dexdog
Veteran
On old Canons, it is very helpful to have the shutter speed sequence and also the split between the top-mounted shutter high-speed dial and the front-mounted slow-speed dial. I can't see this info from the pictures provided.
From the pics, I can see that it has the side-mounted flash bar, which is a common feature of the IV series models. It is definately not the VI or 7 series- completely wrong for this camera. Also, highest shutter speed of 1/1000 or 1/500 is important. I would have to have more info, and access to Peter Dechert's Canon RF book, to make a positive ID.
I imagine that someone will chime in soon.
From the pics, I can see that it has the side-mounted flash bar, which is a common feature of the IV series models. It is definately not the VI or 7 series- completely wrong for this camera. Also, highest shutter speed of 1/1000 or 1/500 is important. I would have to have more info, and access to Peter Dechert's Canon RF book, to make a positive ID.
I imagine that someone will chime in soon.
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
You need a copy of Dr. Dechert's excellent 'Canon Rangefinder Cameras' book, which includes a flow chart that leads you to the model designation based on several identifying keys.
I don't have my book here in the office, and some of your photos aren't close enough to see all the identifying keys, but:
-- It's got a one-piece lever for the finder magnification control (under rewind knob.) This marks it as one of the later models.
-- There's a film-type reminder in the wind knob. This narrows down the choices.
-- It's not clear from the photo, but it looks as if there is NOT a black pointer on the inner hub of the shutter-speed dial; this means it can't be a "b2", as in IVSb2. The pointer allowed setting the shutter speed either before or after the shutter was cocked; this refinement appeared only on the last series. (The Nikon S2 has a similar pointer.)
-- It does have a sync rail on the end, so it's got to be one of the flash-synchronized models (F or S.) Can't tell which without a close-up of the shutter speed dials.
So, I'd say it's either a IV-something or a II-something, depending on whether the top shutter speed is 1/1000 or 1/500 (again, can't see the dials to tell.)
Don't get in too big a sweat if you find it doesn't match any model exactly. As also pointed out in the Dechert book, some of the identifying keys (e.g. the film-type reminder) are easy to switch from one camera to another, so anyone with enough cameras and a screwdriver can mix and match parts to make trivially different, undocumented "sub-models" that never existed on the factory books!
I don't have my book here in the office, and some of your photos aren't close enough to see all the identifying keys, but:
-- It's got a one-piece lever for the finder magnification control (under rewind knob.) This marks it as one of the later models.
-- There's a film-type reminder in the wind knob. This narrows down the choices.
-- It's not clear from the photo, but it looks as if there is NOT a black pointer on the inner hub of the shutter-speed dial; this means it can't be a "b2", as in IVSb2. The pointer allowed setting the shutter speed either before or after the shutter was cocked; this refinement appeared only on the last series. (The Nikon S2 has a similar pointer.)
-- It does have a sync rail on the end, so it's got to be one of the flash-synchronized models (F or S.) Can't tell which without a close-up of the shutter speed dials.
So, I'd say it's either a IV-something or a II-something, depending on whether the top shutter speed is 1/1000 or 1/500 (again, can't see the dials to tell.)
Don't get in too big a sweat if you find it doesn't match any model exactly. As also pointed out in the Dechert book, some of the identifying keys (e.g. the film-type reminder) are easy to switch from one camera to another, so anyone with enough cameras and a screwdriver can mix and match parts to make trivially different, undocumented "sub-models" that never existed on the factory books!
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
It's an IV series - but I can't see enough details to know which.
Use this breakdown at Pacific Rim: http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/canon/iv.htm to help you work through which model.
Condition is a factor in price, and hard to judge, since we don't know it's mechanical shape, etc. But the IV's usually go for between $100-200 US, depending on model and condition.
Use this breakdown at Pacific Rim: http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/canon/iv.htm to help you work through which model.
Condition is a factor in price, and hard to judge, since we don't know it's mechanical shape, etc. But the IV's usually go for between $100-200 US, depending on model and condition.
burninfilm
Well-known
To further add to the confusion, it appears that the lens mounted on your camera is actually a Leitz Summarit 50mm f1.5. So, it's a Canon camera with a Leica lens.
CanonRFinder
Well-known
Hi,
It is a model IVS.
The serial #76763 is surrounded by model IVS on my database. The slow speed dial is split at 25, top shutter speed of 1000, has a side rail flash. This camera was produced between 4/1952-5/1953 and would approximate that this one was released around December 52. Only 4900 units were produced as per Peter D's book. Probably came with a CANON LENS 50mm f/1.8 and at the time the CANON LENS 50mm f/1.5 hadn't been released although it wasn't far from the date when this camera was issued. Hence the Leica f/1.5 lens.
One other reason that it is more than likely that it is a IVS is that the serial number range of the IVS went from #64000 to #85000 while the IVF went from #52610 to #69000 and this body is outside that range.
Peter K
It is a model IVS.
The serial #76763 is surrounded by model IVS on my database. The slow speed dial is split at 25, top shutter speed of 1000, has a side rail flash. This camera was produced between 4/1952-5/1953 and would approximate that this one was released around December 52. Only 4900 units were produced as per Peter D's book. Probably came with a CANON LENS 50mm f/1.8 and at the time the CANON LENS 50mm f/1.5 hadn't been released although it wasn't far from the date when this camera was issued. Hence the Leica f/1.5 lens.
One other reason that it is more than likely that it is a IVS is that the serial number range of the IVS went from #64000 to #85000 while the IVF went from #52610 to #69000 and this body is outside that range.
Peter K
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