Hey folks, World Football Cup started

ruben said:
Marc, you are a fine member, seriously, why not mooving to the saloon of Zaidane optimism, bring it here in your most creative way, isn't photography about seeing ? You can, you may, you must. Vive la France ! (including Paris suburbs !)
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Right Ruben, you are a fine diplomat, you know the wise words. 🙂
I feel I spent too many hours in RFF today for my first day of vacation! Is it sad?
Plus, I'm not in the best mood this afternoon: I brought a Summicron, I've just bought, for a CLA at one of the finest place in Paris (Photo Suffren) and they told me that the haze on the rear glass would be hard, if not impossible, to remove!!!😡 400€ almost lost! :bang:
Marc
 
ruben said:
Let us never forget that women are those who, as a genera rule, clean our houses, raise our kids, cook our food, and have to find a very special moment to pick up a camera. Let us make a counscious special effort to make RFF a place where women can be treated opposite than in the road. Otherwise we will die younger than necessary, and alone.

Cheers,
Ruben
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I think a first good step is to stop talking about women in these generalizing terms. If you don't bring up that women normally don't like technical threads it's that women normally clean our houses. Maybe time to climb off the soap box for a bit as - regardless of how good your intentions are - continuing to mention every generalization about women you know of/agree with disagree with is seriously damaging more than its helping.

My humble opinion ofcourse.
 
Rich Silfver said:
I think a first good step is to stop talking about women in these generalizing terms. If you don't bring up that women normally don't like technical threads it's that women normally clean our houses. Maybe time to climb off the soap box for a bit as - regardless of how good your intentions are - continuing to mention every generalization about women you know of/agree with disagree with is seriously damaging more than its helping.

My humble opinion ofcourse.
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Welcome Rich, you seem to never miss the happy hour. Indeed I have the feeling you have a deep disagreement with me about our different perceptions of women. I welcome any disagreement, brought in a friendly manner, and invite you in my most kind way to detail your views, at the thread Guy or Gal, or a new thread of your initiative.

I grant you my fullest attention and most positive reaction. After all I must admit I have not had the chance to know other sides of you, which I am sure do exist, being love for photography one of them among those I reckognize in you already.

But here and now, we are trying to get back to football, optimism, and good manners. (no implication about yours).

Could you refrain at this precise moment ?

Greetings from Jerusalem,
Ruben
 
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Marc-A. said:
Right Ruben, you are a fine diplomat, you know the wise words. 🙂
I feel I spent too many hours in RFF today for my first day of vacation! Is it sad?
Plus, I'm not in the best mood this afternoon: I brought a Summicron, I've just bought, for a CLA at one of the finest place in Paris (Photo Suffren) and they told me that the haze on the rear glass would be hard, if not impossible, to remove!!!😡 400€ almost lost! :bang:
Marc
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MARC, MY FRIEND, IF I WHERE IN PARIS NOW I WOULD GET CRAZY ABOUT GOING TO THE STREETS AND BRING TO RFF HOW PARIS LOOKS NOW AT THIS MOMENT OF FAITH AND OPTIMISM.

As for your Summicron, just in case Suffren fails, or ask for too much, I know a good technician in Tel Aviv, knowledgeable about disecting Leica lenses.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
Rich Silfver said:
We got to stop agreeing on things...

I agree [dammit] that Ruben's intentions are probably good but geezz.... I'm a sensitive, caring, equal-rights defending kinda guy - but there is something about raising all these women-generalizations ALL the time that is somewhat...uncomfortable as I'm starting to think that it says something about the person that have such an easy time coming up with them. That..and starting some 'alarm-thread' about a complete non-issue portraying others as less sensitive than the referee.
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Rich my friend,
I have lots of negative qualities, perhaps the only positive being my awareness of them. What can I do, That's has been my piece of cake in life.

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OK, first of all Jenni was kind enough to report her posts to a Moderator. I read her PM prior to the post so here I am. It seems that things are "calming" but to ensure they do I will temporarily close our thread.

First, I thank Jenni for the heads about her own posts. She said nothing about anyone else. I once reported one of my posts to Joe, now I feel good about having done that.

What I have read:

Nobody likes diving and fake injuries in their football/soccer.
Italy and France are playing in the final.
The other 30 teams are not.

So, we must all agree to disagree on a number of points. I will reopen the thread for the final weekend. Until then lets all collect ourselves. When we are back lets keep to talking about soccer.

The world's sport surely has ignited our passions.
 
How did everyone sleep last evening? Lets get this up and running again for the final weekend. Let's not sharpen the edge as much though, OK?

Alrighty, what to do now........

Everyone, keep on voting in the poll, we are about even when I just looked there, Italy 28 votes, France 27. Here is a link to the poll, I am going to move that to ANFSD, one soccer thread on the front page is enough. We are after all a photography web site and though a strong % of us are enjoying the World Cup, some are not as enthused, which is fine.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=332965#post332965

So, what is your favorite Soccer movie? I actually heard this conversation yesterday. I am not much of a movie guy. I actually see the Hollywood crowd as a bunch of social leeches, the lowest form of life, but I should not digress.

Hey, I didn't know that Fever Pitch was originally a soccer movie. Remade recently to focus on some baseball team in Boston 😉, it was a book who's story was about the relationship between a football fan and a non football fan.

OK I found a list,

http://www.footymania.com/movies.phtml

OK, I did see Victory at some point in time. Other than Sylvester Stallone being in it I think it was an OK movie.

Well, back into the fray we go.

Italy v France!!!!!

Let's finish the World Cup with a flourish, and a bit of class.😎
 
Rover

I didn't know Fever Pitch became a baseball movie - sacrilege! The original (football) book is great by the way - anyone growing up in 1970s/1980's UK will recognise many of the situations.

The third place match is tonight - Germany v Portugal. Go Germany!
 
Historical Update

Historical Update

Because of an extremely incompetent and amateur mexican referee and a corrupt football association named FIFA, which banned Torsten Frings for no wrong-doing, the German national soccor team lost their chi and an important match against the italians.

But only in this universe.
 
Kevin said:
Because of an extremely incompetent and amateur mexican referee and a corrupt football association named FIFA, which banned Torsten Frings for no wrong-doing, the German national soccor team lost their chi and an important match against the italians.

But only in this universe.
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Shouldn't you blame the German representatives in FIFA that failed to show that Frings did nothing wrong?
At the end of the day Germany is represented in the FIFA disciplinary committee by Guenter Hirsh while Italy has no representatives.😉
 
I don't know any of these things, Francesco.

All I know is that a flow of energy was severly ruptured and this produced events which altered history.

There are people in high places who know this but keep silent.

Had Frings played that day and that fool of a referee been sent to chase ambulances the game would have progressed along a different path.
 
Ach Kevin komm schon. Schwamm drueber.

We should be happy that Germany was one of the few teams that performed better than expected before the cup started. And what about the great euphoria throughout Germany in the last few weeks!?

If Italy earned it victory or not, I don't know, but I think it was a good game to watch. We lost, that's sports.

BTW with all the injuries now after the Italy game (Ballack, Borowski, Mertesacker, etc. out) the game against Protugal will be hard enough.
 
a.black said:
BTW with all the injuries now after the Italy game (Ballack, Borowski, Mertesacker, etc. out) the game against Protugal will be hard enough.
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Can't help but think these players have been told by their respective clubs to take a dive so to speak.... don't think the club's would be keen to help out by releasing a player in the future if he was to end up with a broken leg (like poor old Cisse) battling it out for third place!

Also most likely part of the reason for Lehmann sliding out of goal for Kahn.
 
akalai said:
Can't help but think these players have been told by their respective clubs to take a dive so to speak.... don't think the club's would be keen to help out by releasing a player in the future if he was to end up with a broken leg (like poor old Cisse) battling it out for third place!

Also most likely part of the reason for Lehmann sliding out of goal for Kahn.
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Well they looked well enough to me after the game, unless they got their injuries later in the changing room. 🙄
 
a.black said:
Ach Kevin komm schon. Schwamm drueber.

If Italy earned it victory or not, I don't know, but I think it was a good game to watch. We lost, that's sports.
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Schwamm drüber ? Possible only if you are willing to accept including such kinda torpedoing into the idea of "effectivity" and "outcome oriented strategies". I won't, there is no match outside the field.

The worst thing was that beeing the host we could not afford a heated public controverse. And so there was an obvious general agreement visible in the media to talk it down as a conspiracy theory of those who can't deal with reality.

Those who had the idea for that impudent coup knew that all well. No way out, Schachmatt.

Fitzi
 
fitzihardwurshd said:
Schwamm drüber ? Possible only if you are willing to accept including such kinda torpedoing into the idea of "effectivity" and "outcome oriented strategies". I won't, there is no match outside the field.

The worst thing was that beeing the host we could not afford a heated public controverse. And so there was an obvious general agreement visible in the media to talk it down as a conspiracy theory of those who can't deal with reality.

Those who had the idea for that impudent coup knew that all well. No way out, Schachmatt.

Fitzi
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All I will say is best of luck Germany against the Submarines!!😉
 
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