Stephen G
Well-known
I assume the setup costs need to be paid every 100 sensors? Sounds like a good deal!
For $10,000 do I still get to buy the coffee?
Amazing deal!
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Yes, but for $20,000 I buy the coffee!
raid
Dad Photographer
That's best laugh I've had today Raid!![]()
Home Depot seems to sell "everything", so ...
Loewe is catching up!
expwmbat
Member
A used M9 sells these days for $2500.
And for that you can get two used A7IIs. Sure, the wides might not be what the M9 offers for M glass, but IBIS and high ISO more than make up for it...
willie_901
Veteran
...I'd like to stick one of their sensors in the backdoor of a bessa, that would be easier and more lucrative than building a whole new camera. If they do get that sensor made, that would be a huge achievement.
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It would not be easier.
The physical restrictions of a body designed for film would be a handicap compared to designing a body with dimensions optimized for the sensor assembly's optics
The mechanical stuff is relatively easy. Just copy existing finder designs and outsourcing the production is relatively simple. Surely RF mechanism patents have expired. Shutters are nothing special either (especially if one is not tied to a certain body dimensions). Who knows maybe Cosina would sell them Bessa components?
The challenge is building a computer system from scratch. The task of assembly language development and testing is significant. Who designs the user interface? Who develops the processing engine? Using DNG raw as the imaging engine output would be smart since creating yet another proprietary raw file format is unnecessary.
Another huge task is sourcing a color-filter array and micro lens assemblies as well as cover glass/IR filter components from someone such as Fujifilm Electronic Materials. Perhaps whoever is supplying the sensor photo-diode array chip for Konost is also integrating the components into a complete sensor assembly. I would hope so.
I completely agree that building a digital imaging data stream from scratch would be a "huge achievement".
raid
Dad Photographer
And for that you can get two used A7IIs. Sure, the wides might not be what the M9 offers for M glass, but IBIS and high ISO more than make up for it...
I never said otherwise. Someone mentioned the Leica, so I posted its current used market value.
nightfly
Well-known
By the time the Konost actually ships, I should be able to afford a used M10.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
It is all ferrania to me.
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
I still say this is all vaporware.
Huss
Veteran
And for that you can get two used A7IIs. Sure, the wides might not be what the M9 offers for M glass, but IBIS and high ISO more than make up for it...
How does IBIS and high ISO make up for smeary pictures due to M lens/sensor glass incompatibility?
Huss
Veteran
By the time the Konost actually ships, I should be able to afford a used M11.
Corrected...
DanskDynamit
Well-known
I'm going to feed my unicorn now..lol..
don't feed it after midnight.
Archlich
Well-known
Still the same model, just another rendering...woosh.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
You'd think they would have had a working prototype to show by now. All I see is the same similar rendering. I'll believe this when I see an actual working model.
Jeez, so many think it takes one year to design and manufacture a camera from scratch. Why do so many seem offended by this?
radi(c)al_cam
Well-known
Jeez, so many think it takes one year to design and manufacture a camera from scratch. Why do so many seem offended by this?
Jeepers creepers! There are even people who think that during a couple of days they can (re)design an entire country from scratch! «Why do so many seem offended by this?»
Corran
Well-known
radi(c)al_cam
Well-known
Corran
Well-known
Yes I know who Ferrania is, I backed their KS. Context????
nightfly
Well-known
I don't think it's that people underestimate the task that Konost have taken on for themselves. More that they continually over promise and under deliver to the point where you can't really take them seriously.
They should probably shut up till they have something closer to production rather than piss people off by posting unrealistic time frames and then going silent for year at a time.
They should probably shut up till they have something closer to production rather than piss people off by posting unrealistic time frames and then going silent for year at a time.
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
Under deliver isn't the right term. That implies they have something physical or meaningful to deliver. Does anyone here have any reason to suspect that they are working on anything at all? They have done nothing but float the same or slightly altered 3D renderings around for a long time.
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