Hold off on the M10, Konost coming end of 2017

[Roger Hicks]

. . . And yes ... this place has Leica worship and Leica scorn available in equal amounts at times! 😀

Dear Keith,

"Worship" and "scorn"? It's just a bloody camera. Either it does what you want, and you can find the money, or it doesn't, and/or you can't find the money.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Gregm61]

This is like telling someone to hold off getting a job, they might catch a leprechaun tomorrow, LOL

 

[jaapv]

I'm not defending anyone here but I don't think the top of the line Nikon and Canon DSLRs are a good comparison to a digital M. The Nikon DF would be a better comparison for me and I recently saw a brand new DF in a store for just under $2500. My M240 cost me three times that amount new ... I'm not begrudging that cost though because you pays your money and you makes your choice as they say.

And yes ... this place has Leica worship and Leica scorn available in equal amounts at times! 😀

A 16 MP cropped sensor consumer grade camera? You must be joking... The only Leica camera that I can come up with that is remorely similar is the T.

 

[happy]

A 16 MP cropped sensor consumer grade camera? You must be joking...

Nikon df? It's a full frame and has as many Pro features as any Leica.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Nikon df? It's a full frame and has more 'pro' features than any Leica.

Really? Which ones? That actual professionals use, that is?

I use an M9 and a Df . They're both great cameras. But to suggest that the "feature"-laden Df is "more professional" suggests that you are using a rather personal definition of "professional".

Cheers,

R.

 

[mpaniagua]

I think one should compare one company top of the line product vs another company top of the line product. Whats Nikon-Canon top of the line camera? compare that to Leica top of the line camera. Price, thats the only thing you can compare, because we are talking orages vs apples otherwise. We cant really compare the feature of the 5d vs M10. Probably we could compare the sensors capacity and thats about it.

Really makes me remembers the time I used to argue PC vs Mac until I realized its useless. Like Roger said, either you like that it does and buy it, or doesnt and dont buy it.

Regards.

Marcelo

 

[happy]

Really? Which ones? That actual professionals use, that is?

I use an M9 and a Df . They're both great cameras. But to suggest that the "feature"-laden Df is "more professional" suggests that you are using a rather personal definition of "professional".

Cheers,

R.

'Pro' features, and I realize I should put Pro in quotes because Often that term is a marketing gimmick. However, I shoot nikon and Leica myself as well professionally and I can tell you that one product is more geared towards a larger segment of today's professionals. Higher frame rate, larger buffer, advanced autofocus and metering, weather sealing, faster and better service for professionals.

You can't honestly deny that. Sure, Leica works fine if that's what you prefer.

 

[steveyork]

Whether people want to admit it or not, the high price of a Leica is also the admission into a small but active social club (largely internet now) of folks who use the cameras and lenses. Get one and you're a member; you can communicate with others on the internet about it, post your pictures and share your angst over whether you should get black or silver, or whether you should purchase a Noctilux or APO Summicron, etc. And this is why a competing rangefinder, from a different company, will not succeed. It's not a Leica.

 

[Scapevision]

So, my concerns lie with future product warranty and service. It being a small mom and pop company, even if it's a little bigger, sounds like once you buy you're on your own if anything goes wrong with this camera. Any information on this?

 

[jsrockit]

And this is why a competing rangefinder, from a different company, will not succeed. It's not a Leica.

Not everybody uses a Leica for superficial reasons. People use other film rangefinders.

 

[Roger Hicks]

'Pro' features, and I realize I should put Pro in quotes because Often that term is a marketing gimmick. However, I shoot nikon and Leica myself as well professionally and I can tell you that one product is more geared towards a larger segment of today's professionals. Higher frame rate, larger buffer, advanced autofocus and metering, weather sealing, faster and better service for professionals.

You can't honestly deny that. Sure, Leica works fine if that's what you prefer.

"Larger segment": sure. But that doesn't make it more "professional".

Also, RF and SLR cameras are so different that it's a bit like comparing motorcycles and motor-cars.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Whether people want to admit it or not, the high price of a Leica is also the admission into a small but active social club (largely internet now) of folks who use the cameras and lenses. Get one and you're a member; you can communicate with others on the internet about it, post your pictures and share your angst over whether you should get black or silver, or whether you should purchase a Noctilux or APO Summicron, etc. And this is why a competing rangefinder, from a different company, will not succeed. It's not a Leica.

Dear Steve,

Really? Your "small but active social club" is, in my experience as a Leica user since 1969, a pretty tiny percentage of Leica users. There are after all similar "small but active social clubs" of Nikon users, Zeiss users, film users, LF users...

Cheers,

R.

 

[stompyq]

I personally hate this notion.

Whether people want to admit it or not, the high price of a Leica is also the admission into a small but active social club (largely internet now) of folks who use the cameras and lenses. Get one and you're a member; you can communicate with others on the internet about it, post your pictures and share your angst over whether you should get black or silver, or whether you should purchase a Noctilux or APO Summicron, etc. And this is why a competing rangefinder, from a different company, will not succeed. It's not a Leica.