Home Made Diopters: Possible !

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How do you obtain a diopter for a camera whose manufacturer never produced one, just for example a small Konica Auto S3 or an Olympus RC ?

First I locked myself for a daily tour at the newest daily arrived diopters from eBay. Currently there are some 150 (gross estimation) variants of diopters there. But if you need for example a +2, then the variants will be reduced to some 4 samples for you to choose, and try a home frankenstanization to the size of your camera viewfinder. Btw seekers of circular diopters will be much better favoured by the existing choices.

But rectangular specific diopters, that you will pay up to fifty bucks without knowing beforehand if you will be able to do something with them - this is a gamble I entered twice and today I went fed up.

So I went to make my own diopter out of plastic reading glasses, fitting the desired diopter and ended in success. Aesthetically, the mounted home diopter on my Konica S3 is not award winning, though the very possibility to have it is great for me, and I hope it may encourage you as well.

I am not going to make a sticky type post, but briefly mention some key points and in case something is not clear you can post here or mail me. My estimation is that out of a reading glasses of good quality you can milk at least some 12 diopters for a Konica Auto s3.

Hereby some points:
a) Reading glasses are plastic - hence the source making it easy.

b) The best part of eash single glass is the center one, i,e, some 20% of each side of each glass will be still usable but not the best quality like in the central area.

c) Once you took out one of the glasses, you cut it, say 1cm from the left, for your first diopter, with a hack saw (I mean here a small one rather designed to cut metal). To sustain the glass you'll need a simple device, whose name in English I do not find, that consists in a heavy and mobil "plier", fixed to a table, whose task in our life is to heavily sandwich by torque force whatever small piece of something we want to work on.

d) take care to cushion the glass on both sides and limit your pressure, since the glass is concave/convex.

e) Once you have your first chunk of glass to become a diopter, you bring it to close size with the help of a circular sanding head, attachable to your Black and Decker. I set my Black and Decker for very low constant speed and held the plastic piece with my hand. At higher speeds it may be HAZARDOUS.

f) So we have by now a rectangular diopter sized plastic, of the size of the external plastic frame, surrounding the viewfinder. If we look at our going to be diopter we notice its thickness is exagerated, never seen in a real glass diopter. Nevermind, we will take advantage of this thickness.

g) Now our goal will be to transform the cut block into a graded one: one side (the graded one) will "enter" into the camera window frame, the other (the non graded one) will match and be sticked to the viewfinder plastic frame.

h) to make the grade we will use a simple filer, BUT one that one of his thin sides is flat and doesn't file. I. e, we will file one surface each time, taking advantage of the non filing side.

i) Once we have the "perfect" size (don't be afraid of what you have, mine looked worse) you glue it with minimum minimal and less than that amount of rubber glue - NEVER EVER THOSE THREE SECONDS HARMFULL glues.

j) Finally, once the glue is dry you can use black tape to cover the protruding borders of your diopter, and this will give a much more nicer look.

It takes time, but it is easy and you will have something unachievable otherwise. Be proud of yourself

I have taken into account your intelligence for doing very obvious things I didn't mentioned, like filing a smidge the outer borders of your diopter to meet your eye, etc.

Fine, another issue behind us.
Cheers,
Ruben
 
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I think that you're referring to a vise: "To sustain the glass you'll need a simple device, whose name in English I do not find, that consists in a heavy and mobil "plier", fixed to a table, whose task in our life is to heavily sandwich by torque force whatever small piece of something we want to work on."

"Reading glasses" usually sell in the $12 - $18 range but I've also found them in the local 99 Cent store. The frame hinges break easily on the cheap glasses, long before the lenses are badly scratched, so ask your friends to save their broken ones for an endless supply of lenses for the cameras of all your friends once you get good at the cutting part.
 
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Really excellent equipment-hacking, Ruben. Any photos of your success?

And just for information, the word you're looking for in part c) might be "vice" or "vise", depending either on one's location relative to the Atlantic Ocean or proclivity for misspelling.


Cheers,
--joe.
 
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And just for information, the word you're looking for in part c) might be "vice" or "vise", depending either on one's location relative to the Atlantic Ocean or proclivity for misspelling.


Cheers,
--joe.

In Argentina, it is called "morsa". But when I looked for the English translation a nice kind of animal went through. :)

Thanks for the compliments
Ruben
 
No need to grind your ownlenses. Places like Surplus Shed and Edmund Optics sell lenses of every size, shape and focal length for as little as a buck or two. I used such a lens as a replacement eyepiece lens for my Hexar RF. Works fine.

No competence offered. My post is about the cases in which you do not have any other alternative, and this can be due to your location on the village, the existing variety at eBay, price, or like in my particular case - no optical workshop was found willing or/able to do the job.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
....."Reading glasses" usually sell in the $12 - $18 range but I've also found them in the local 99 Cent store. The frame hinges break easily on the cheap glasses, long before the lenses are badly scratched, so ask your friends to save their broken ones for an endless supply of lenses for the cameras of all your friends once you get good at the cutting part.

This is close to the price range of the reading glasses I refered to. Look, if you can have, let's say some 8 home made big diopters out of $20, and make different sized diopters to your different camera viewfinders, that otherwise you cannot have at any price - then you will be doing wise. (Vise ?)

Cheers,
Ruben
 
The big deal folks is that reading glasses good plastic is workable at home.

Cheers,
Ruben
 

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The big deal folks is that reading glasses good plastic is workable at home.

A good point - polycarbonate makes good prototyping material when ground/cut/etc. And that bit about the "morsa" was hilarious. Isn't language wonderful?


Cheers,
--joe.
 
The glasses at my local 99 Cent Store still have hang tags and prices on them from Walmart or Walgreens, probably "last year's " styles. The other "Big Bargain" the last few years are folding umbrellas for 99 Cents! I always try to keep a few it the truck to give away when the rains come. It's cheaper than buying somebody a cup of coffee!
 
No need to grind your ownlenses. Places like Surplus Shed and Edmund Optics sell lenses of every size, shape and focal length for as little as a buck or two. I used such a lens as a replacement eyepiece lens for my Hexar RF. Works fine.

Thanks for that! I've needed a +7.5 diopter to replace the +8.5 (standard) diopter in the eyepiece of the prism finder of my Rolleiflex SL66 (not a rangefinder- sorry), because my right eye needs -1.0. Surplus shed don't have exactly what I need, but Edmund does.

Thanks again!
 
Just now I have purchased this +2 diopter and sent an offer for two similar ones. They are low cost and seem convenient:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140316108716&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:1123

Interestingly, Nikon is the camera manufacturer with biggest circulating eBay offers. Kudos !

Besides Nikon quality I trust as better than reading glasses, the most notorious advantage is they come with an existing frame - the biggest problem in the home making diopter.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
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If the camera at hand has a rectangular eyepiece, the diopters for the Canon A series of cameras will actually fit (with some force on some but they work) an amazing number of older cameras. I know from experience they will work on Pentax Spotmatics, Olympus OM 1 & 2, a lot of older Ricoh film cameras, as well as the Canon FT series of SLR's. I need a +1 on just about anything, even with my glasses, so having a few of these Canon A series diopters have allowed me to play with a lot of obscure SLR's.
 
No single sample of "canon a diopter" at eBay today, but nevertheless search saved for daily email.

BTW, there is another item the diopter user will need - a strap for a quick elevation of his wearing glasses when looking through the viewfinder.

Thanks
Ruben
 

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Many good opticians (the high-street guys who make spectacles) will custom-grind and fit them for you too, in real glass if you want. Much more expensive than sawing up reading glasses but still surprisingly cheaper than you might think, especially if they like a challenge. My wife even had prescription lenses made for her motorcycle goggles!

Tashi delek,

R.
 
Many good opticians (the high-street guys who make spectacles) will custom-grind and fit them for you too, in real glass if you want. Much more expensive than sawing up reading glasses but still surprisingly cheaper than you might think, especially if they like a challenge. My wife even had prescription lenses made for her motorcycle goggles!

Tashi delek,

R.

Hi Roger,

At the time, I phoned to some opticians in Jerusalem for a round cut for my Kiev diopter housing, bought beforehand, which is close to the Leica size one ~ around 1cm but no one seemed to dare the mission with their lazer-at-the-shop cutters.

Just for the gossip (the most loved aspect of our craft), I went back to the Ukarainian seller of the housings for desperate help, and he either did the job himself or another Ukrainian optician (probably without lazer razor sharp cutters) did the job. But....

There was one reason why I didn't jumped to do it myself immediately after I got the plastic pieces from Ukraine. Each diopter they sent seemed composed by two layers of plastic, somewhat glued one to the other. So I was sure that reading glasses are made of two layers of plastic, prompt to break at the cutting action.

This absolutely wrong idea was unfortunately re-inforced by the fishing wire surrounding the "unframed" side of the reading glassers, which by simple observation leaves the impression that indeed two layers of plastic are there.

In fact, when I went to cut my first diopter several days ago, I was still convinced two layers are there, but I said to myself "what the hell !". Only upon dismounting the first glass I met the fishing wire and noticed it is a single thick layer.

But not the Ukrainian one. For some reason it is a two layers plastic. Perhaps it is due to their internal political trends, I don't know.

Cheers,
Ruben

PS,
Given that we are at the gossip level, it is my duty to report to newer RFF members, that older ones may be pistted off, at least by my ongoing long trend campaign to find a solution to this issue of view finder viewing. I have repeatedly opened threads, asking, advicing, cotradicting, etc with many different ideas, doubts etc. So hereby my apologies to our tolerant long lasting members. Despite my apologies, dear vet folks, I am not sure I am already done.
 
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