How do you make HP5 sing out loud?

[Highway 61]

Well I still don't get all those "trials" thoughts. HP5+ is now a well known film and we all know that it sings well in D76. Why do you want to try to re-invent tap water guys ?

😉

(Very respectfully said).

I understand that many of you are on a budget. That's my case too. And, yes, HP5+ has now become the most expensive 400 film (at least in 135-36). So why don't you want to use D76 ? Used at 1+1 or 1+3 (again, no noticeable difference between 1+1 and 1+3 in my opinion) you will save on the developer.

Here is another photo shot on HP5+ in 120, same roll as above, D76 1+3, 20' at 20°C).

Those two photos were scanned on a crappy Epson 3170 flatbed so it's pretty hard to tell from those scans (though...) but I've made wet darkroom 10"x10" prints on FB paper and they really came out great : no grain, wide grayscale, dense blacks, luminous highlights : what else ? 😉

(Toronto, Ontario, Yorkville Avenue, May 2011, Rolleiflex 3.5F)

 

[Bob Michaels]

With the demise of Arista Premium, I am considering trying HP5.
...................

Demise? I just restocked. Large order in transit now.

 

[Calzone]

With the demise of Arista Premium, I am considering trying HP5.
I'm carefully following this thread, and I have to admit I'm not sure I'll do it anymore.
I'm not a fan of grainy pictures, and quite a lot of the examples here are quite grainy, despite their small size. I know there is nothing scientific about it, but I have a strong feeling that TX is smaller grained, or at least, I get smaller grains.

Is someone using Emofin by chance?
If I switch to Ilford, I may give Delta a shot too...

HP5 has a bit more grain than Tri-X depending on developer. I use Diafine which is pretty fine grained, and the slightly bigger grain is is really hard to see unless a side by side comparision is made.

Cal

 

[zauhar]

Demise? I just restocked. Large order in transit now.

When I saw Michael wrote "demise" my heart sank - expected that maybe it was already all gone. I just checked and ordered a bunch.

Freestyle is stil offering discounts on 500 rolls, so I will assume there is still tons in stock.

Randy

 

[Calzone]

When I saw Michael wrote "demise" my heart sank - expected that maybe it was already all gone. I just checked and ordered a bunch.

Freestyle is stil offering discounts on 500 rolls, so I will assume there is still tons in stock.

Randy

Randy,

Get it while you can.

BTW in 120 HP5 is less expensive than Tri-X. Also in 120 Delta 400 is less than Tri-X.

Cal

 

[sanmich]

Demise? I just restocked. Large order in transit now.

Bob, AP is only available as stock lasts with an estimate of one year by the interweb belief

HP5 has a bit more grain than Tri-X depending on developer. I use Diafine which is pretty fine grained, and the slightly bigger grain is is really hard to see unless a side by side comparision is made.

Cal

sounds better...
I'll probably try it with D-76 and emofin to make my mind.

 

[Calzone]

Bob, AP is only available as stock lasts with an estimate of one year by the interweb belief



sounds better...
I'll probably try it with D-76 and emofin to make my mind.

Go stock solution rather than 1+1 for finer grain. Also minimize agitation, even if it means extending development a little to compensate.

Cal

 

[Calzone]

Bob, AP is only available as stock lasts with an estimate of one year by the interweb belief

The time to go crazy and bulk up on AP is now for 135.

TRI-X in 120 though has gotten too expensive. HP5 is mucho cheap in 120, and even Delta 400 is cheaper.

Cal

 

[Bob Michaels]

Bob, AP is only available as stock lasts with an estimate of one year by the interweb belief ....................

Since Arista Premium is just a clearance of Kodak overstock, it has always been apparent to me that it would not last forever. Just like the other Arista whatever it was that was an overstock of Neopan 400.

I will be happy if Freestyle has enough inventory that it will take them another year to liquidate. And I will really load up at the first indication that they are running low.

 

[Calzone]

Since Arista Premium is just a clearance of Kodak overstock, it has always been apparent to me that it would not last forever. Just like the other Arista whatever it was that was an overstock of Neopan 400.

I will be happy if Freestyle has enough inventory that it will take them another year to liquidate. And I will really load up at the first indication that they are running low.

A years back Freestyle sold Legacy Pro which was really Fuji Arcos. I did what Bob suggests, and I still have about 80 rolls left.

I also have about 24 Rolls of whatever rebranded name that really is Agfa 400.

Eventually good things don't last.

Cal

 

[rolfe]

Just ordered another 100 rolls of AP yesterday to add to my already substantial stock. I think this is definitely the way to go. I also did this with APX100 from macodirect.de so I'm set for a while. I believe the APX100 is still available, but you have to order 50-100 rolls to make the shipping worth it.

 

[Johnmcd]

HP5 in Rodinal 1:50 4 slow inversion every 30 sec, 11 min @ 20C
All off the same roll developed today.

Bronica SQ A. 80mm
Not sure if they are 'singing' but happy with results.

Cheers - John

 

[nightfly]

Put it on ebay and buy some Tri-X.

 

[gsgary]

My first attempt at adding Sodium Sulphite to Rodinal, 12ml rodinal, 18grams Sodium sulphite, 300ml water, i like the results not sure if you will think they sing out

 

[sepiareverb]

Cheers - John

I tell ya, I'm ready for some weather like this about now. The sun has finally begun to feel warm here in Northern Vermont, but we're still a month away from leaves. Crocus has just begun blooming this past weekend.

 

[rkm]

Not sure if they sing out loud, but my gallery to this point is all HP5 developed in ID11. Shot at 200, 400, 800, and 1600.

 

[Johnmcd]

I tell ya, I'm ready for some weather like this about now. The sun has finally begun to feel warm here in Northern Vermont, but we're still a month away from leaves. Crocus has just begun blooming this past weekend.

Autumn here for us in the southern hemisphere but still high 20's (Celsius that is). We had a summer of extreme weather. The hottest day on record 46.5 degrees C. and some terrible bushfire weather. Then lots of rain. Can't pick it 🙂

Cheers - John

 

[Calzone]

Tried a roll of HP5+ in Xtol 1:1 over the weekend. Wet printed several frames, found the contrast just fine, the resolution a bit better than D-23, but more visible grain. Now what?

Try less aggitation to minimize the grain and extend development time to compensate. A guideline: cut aggitation to only two inversions per minute requires about a 25% increase in time.

Also know that contrast will be slightly less. I find that my negatives kinda fall inbetween say ID-11 stock and ID-11 1:1 as far as contrast with minimized aggitation and extended development. Small format starts to have more of a medium format tonality.

Cal

 

[Clint Troy]

In ilfosol-3, the contrast is excellent and the grain is sharp. Hp5 pops in ilfosol-3 as opposed to many others.

Rated @800 in rodinal or hc:110:B is also very good!

 

[DriesI]

I like HP5 in Ilfosol-3 as well, although that developer is mainly recommended for medium speed films.