jaap
Jaap
It's just a last resort for leica to put them on the tracks again.
But it won't work with a product like the M8
Krosya
Konicaze
After reading all these posts, I still don't understand why would anyone need FOUR or more Leica M8 cameras, unless you are a dealer? Even for a Pro shooter it seems way too much as far as I see it. And if reliability is so poor (and I'm not saying that it is) that some people feel the need to have that many back ups - I'd simply switch to a more reliable camera. But thats just me.
No M8 for me. Would I like one - maybe, but would have to try one first and even than I'm not sure I'd get one. But if one feel off the truck and right onto my lap......I wouldn't say no to it.
No M8 for me. Would I like one - maybe, but would have to try one first and even than I'm not sure I'd get one. But if one feel off the truck and right onto my lap......I wouldn't say no to it.
raid
Dad Photographer
Only if the poll is set up that way, Moderator
We are missing -1 (meaning I would sell it immediately if I had one).
lol
Roland,
If someone gave me two free M8 cameras, I would sell both.
I guess, it would mean a score of -2.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
It's been the beginning of the end for Leica since day one. There's always been a chorus of "what?!? why?!?" since before they went to production.
Leica (and "Leitz" before that) has always been an inkblot showing people's innermost, darkest or lightest areas of their psyche.
Like a cigar.
And those who chew tobacco can't seem to understand why anybody would light that stuff up, anyway. And many never will
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
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Nobody says all y'all have to agree with each other, but let's not get catty now. Talk and quote away. Read or don't read what you wish to, but be nice ish.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Well there ya go.. now, inevitably, someone (who owns an M8) will come out and passionately state one of three things:
1) Do you own an M8 Stephen???? If you don't, your opinion (or information) doesn't count for squat here!!
2) Oh.. your information is incorrect, my Leica Dealer told me himself that Leica sales are extremely brisk and he can't keep them in stock because they sell out so fast so I had better get one while the gettin' was good !!
3) Why are we even concerned about numbers or problems or anything - just go out and take photos with the camera and you'll love it !!!
hmmm.. now that I look at that... basically every single "here's what's wrong with the M8" or "M8 problems" or "M8 (insert phrase here)" thread can be refuted by one (or all) of those three statements above
Cheers,
Dave
Dear Dave,
Not just M8. Substitute 'Leica' and the same is true.
Cheers,
R.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
You misunderstand completely: YOU are certainly not on my ignore list..
You quoted a troll, who would otherwise be hidden from me...So I suggested, slightly tongue-in-cheekish that that person would better remain hidden.
PaulDalex
Dilettante artist
I read all the posts.
And I remain curious about how the M8 owners would assess the cost/benefit ratio of their investment compared to sticking to a film leica.
This is especially interesting given the percent of amateurs owners of the M8.
Cheers
Paul
And I remain curious about how the M8 owners would assess the cost/benefit ratio of their investment compared to sticking to a film leica.
This is especially interesting given the percent of amateurs owners of the M8.
Cheers
Paul
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Amateurs have no cost/benefit ratio....
DWeston
DWeston
I fall into the same group useage I believe as JAAPV, but I also know plenty of others who use and buy the camera for what it does, as in postal employees, manufacturing workers who justify it by what the camera does and the fact that they like using a dig RF. Amateur is a word that gets misused here in the forums but most amateurs buy the best they can to enjoy their hobby. There are many that are quite knowledgeable and do work equal in quality as some pros I know, fwiw.... the camera is just a tool as has been said many times, one buys what one can afford to buy to accomplish a task....funny no one is curious about how expensive my dental equipment is.....
nrb
Nuno Borges
In reading this thread I wondered what will be the percentage of Leica owners who also own a flash. Surely that would be a nice subject for a future poll, but I guess (wildly) that their number should be about the same as of those who own one or various M8s.
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
I'm a leica owner who also owns a set of strobes, and a handful of speed lights.
I've used my Leica's with strobes on multiple occasions.
I also use my leica with a SF20 on camera, sacrilegious
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I've used my Leica's with strobes on multiple occasions.
I also use my leica with a SF20 on camera, sacrilegious
Maarten
Newbie
funny no one is curious about how expensive my dental equipment is.....
I know it has to be really expensive if I remember my last dentist bill
I've spent too much money lately on Leica stuff. No more dentist visits for me the coming year....
DWeston
DWeston
pay me now or pay me later....
pay me now or pay me later....
we all proscrastinate things, but putting off health issues for a luxury item is not one I recommend but I DO UNDERSTAND GAS!!!
With the cost of dental digital intra oral cameras I have been trying to rationalize a 1DS III, so far no go.....on either, the Canon is a small fraction of the cost of the former, and lets not talk about the putrid rez given by these intra oral devices or digital xray sensors ...... we are talking here H39 cost territory...needless to say I have found other alternatives knowing something about rez and scanning options also...
pay me now or pay me later....
we all proscrastinate things, but putting off health issues for a luxury item is not one I recommend but I DO UNDERSTAND GAS!!!
With the cost of dental digital intra oral cameras I have been trying to rationalize a 1DS III, so far no go.....on either, the Canon is a small fraction of the cost of the former, and lets not talk about the putrid rez given by these intra oral devices or digital xray sensors ...... we are talking here H39 cost territory...needless to say I have found other alternatives knowing something about rez and scanning options also...
PaulDalex
Dilettante artist
Amateurs have no cost/benefit ratio....(Jaapv)
Jaapv,
Along my career I studied economy, and I have a few publications relating to economy and decision theory.
Gone are many of my books on economy (probably donated) like:
Macro-economic theory: A mathematical treatment
by R. G. D Allen
Fortunately many professors publish on the net their teachin notes.
So I searched and downloaded:
http://homepages.nyu.edu/~yna201/macrotext.pdf
Here you can verify that economists assume that all consumers take decisions based on cost/benefit ratio.
Thus my question stands and is crucial.
Also notice that I intended "especially amateurs" not just amateurs.
On the other hand I think a pro should explain to us the marginal benefit of the 5th M8 body.
All the best
Paul
Jaapv,
Along my career I studied economy, and I have a few publications relating to economy and decision theory.
Gone are many of my books on economy (probably donated) like:
Macro-economic theory: A mathematical treatment
by R. G. D Allen
Fortunately many professors publish on the net their teachin notes.
So I searched and downloaded:
http://homepages.nyu.edu/~yna201/macrotext.pdf
Here you can verify that economists assume that all consumers take decisions based on cost/benefit ratio.
Thus my question stands and is crucial.
Also notice that I intended "especially amateurs" not just amateurs.
On the other hand I think a pro should explain to us the marginal benefit of the 5th M8 body.
All the best
Paul
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Professors do tend to write nonsense from time to time - I know, I have known many.
The benefits for amateurs are immaterial, the costs are material. Comparing the uncomparable is futile.
And crucial??? What possible interest can the answer hold?
The benefits for amateurs are immaterial, the costs are material. Comparing the uncomparable is futile.
And crucial??? What possible interest can the answer hold?
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jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
where are you located, been doing implants and C&B for 25 yrs, and my fees are no where near that....
We must be doing something wrong...
1500 Euro for the surgery, 900 for the crown...
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DaveB
Established
I'm still on my first M8 and I'm still on my first wife for that matter.
Still, I have been thinking about acquiring a second body. I hate to think what I'd be forced to resort to should I need to return mine for service or upgrade.
I am particularly eager for an opportunity to play around with the latest firmware.
Still, I have been thinking about acquiring a second body. I hate to think what I'd be forced to resort to should I need to return mine for service or upgrade.
I am particularly eager for an opportunity to play around with the latest firmware.
Well if you are after a second body, go for the M8. Your wife is less likely to object and it would be cheaper in the long run.