Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatin silver print (tth amotal 50mm) leica mp
Erik.
Erik.

p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
Always nice to see your work Erik - both past and present.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Thank you Pan! I also like to see your work!
Have a look on my Flickr!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/erik_van_straten/
Erik.
Have a look on my Flickr!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/erik_van_straten/
Erik.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
silver gelatine print (summar) leica m2
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatine silver print (summilux 35mm) leica m5
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
silver gelatine print (summicron 50mm f/2 rigid) leica m3
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
silver gelatin print (nikkor 35mm f/1.8) nikon s2
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatin silver print (elmar 50mm) leica 1a 1928
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatine silver print (LLL35mm) leica mp
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatine silver print (LLL 35mm f2 8-elements) leica mp
Erik.
Erik.

p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
silver gelatin print (nikkor 35mm f/1.8) nikon s2
Erik.
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This is brilliant picture. Both the light and the lady look beautiful.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Thank you, Pan!
gelatine silver print (color skopar 50mm) leica m2
Erik.
gelatine silver print (color skopar 50mm) leica m2
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatine silver print (summicron 50mm rigid) leica m2
Erik.
Erik.

p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
Very nice picture Erik - Looks like a cozy place. I can also see your hands reflected on the lamp.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Thank you Pan, the cafe is down an alley, I was able to back just enough to get the whole window on it with the 50mm. Now the cafe will be closed due to corona.
Scenes like this are difficult to print because of the high contrasts.
Erik.
Scenes like this are difficult to print because of the high contrasts.
Erik.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatine silver print (color skopar 50mm) leica m2
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
gelatin silver print (summilux 50mm v1 black) leica mp
Erik.
Erik.

Andy Kibber
Well-known
This thread is making my head hurt. You guys are waaaay overcomplicating a simple thing.
1- Do the 00 first. Pick the time that gives you the highlights you want.
2- Expose your next test strip with that time and the 00 filter then without moving the paper switch to the 5 filter and do your test strip on that same paper. Pick your exposure to get the shadows where you want them.
Easy Peasy. That is about all you need to know so you can stop reading here if it suits you.
Occasionally if you are doing larger prints or using grainy film, the 5 exposure can degrade the highlights. This is because you are actually enlarging the space between the grains. If you notice that happening, back off your 00 exposure a little.
Starting with the 5 exposure is a mistake because the 00 will also add density in the shadows.
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That is about as super simple as I can make it. Hope that helps you.![]()
I tried this approach yesterday and it worked very well! Thanks so much. Easier than doing separate test strips for 00 and 5 filters, then combining the two.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
I agree completely with PRJ! But there will be no difference wich one is done first, 00 or 5.
However, it is useful to make first test strips with only the 00-exposure to determine the exposure time for the high lights. If this is clear, you can start to determine the 5-exposure. This exposure will be very much shorter.
Erik.
However, it is useful to make first test strips with only the 00-exposure to determine the exposure time for the high lights. If this is clear, you can start to determine the 5-exposure. This exposure will be very much shorter.
Erik.
Andy Kibber
Well-known
Hi Erik, agreed. I found it much easier make the test strip with the 00 filter only, then judge the highlights and decide on the 00 exposure. Then see the effect of the 5 filter in a new test strip, on top of the 00 exposure. The method worked great for me.
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