Nachkebia
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Hello boiz en girlz, I just bought roll scanner accessorie for Coolscan 5000 so I can scan whole roll of negative without cutting it, but I was wondering what is the best way to store it? put back in the film roll cover? will it scratch? are there any other solutions?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Socke
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My father had his uncut film in the film containers. No scratches after some 40 years 
Nachkebia
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Okey thanks both, but explain what you mean with "film containers" and "Kodak bulk film cannisters" 
Nachkebia
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Okeeey, and I am sure there is no way I can find it at local stores! so what should I do until I buys those fancy bulk loading roll`s 
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varjag
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Storing film rolled (especially in tight film canisters) will eventually result in flatness problems with scanning and printing. Maybe settle for a compromise: scan through freshly processed roll, then cut and store properly?
Nachkebia
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ManGo : I have to develope and scan around 60 rolls of film

varjag : I might do that indeed, there will be no problem with enlarger for the future if I cut them to four peaces right?
varjag : I might do that indeed, there will be no problem with enlarger for the future if I cut them to four peaces right?
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varjag
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Nachkebia, I think the issue is not a stip length per se but rather keeping the negs flat in storage. If you find a suitable 1.65m long negative sleeve it would work just fine with uncut roll 
vicmortelmans
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Hi,
I also use a scanner that does a complete roll and at first, I also planned not to cut the film. But putting it in the film canisters without fingerprints or scratches is NOT easy! And indeed, even after a couple of days in the canister, it's a hell to get it flat.
Finally, ask yourself the question how often it will occur that you want to scan the complete roll again? I scan the roll at moderate resolution, just enough to order 10x15cm prints or publish on the web (and for digitial storage). Then I cut the film for storage. If I need larger resolution, it's most often about individual images, and then cut film is even more practical than having to feed the complete roll to the scanner for scanning a single image.
Groeten,
Vic
I also use a scanner that does a complete roll and at first, I also planned not to cut the film. But putting it in the film canisters without fingerprints or scratches is NOT easy! And indeed, even after a couple of days in the canister, it's a hell to get it flat.
Finally, ask yourself the question how often it will occur that you want to scan the complete roll again? I scan the roll at moderate resolution, just enough to order 10x15cm prints or publish on the web (and for digitial storage). Then I cut the film for storage. If I need larger resolution, it's most often about individual images, and then cut film is even more practical than having to feed the complete roll to the scanner for scanning a single image.
Groeten,
Vic
MartinP
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Hallo Vladimer and all,
Like Vic says, after the first "library" or reference scan, you would probably then be selective about future hi-res scans, so a 1,6m roll would be a pain in the a%#$ when you only wanted a couple of negs at a time ?
I am still using a huge box of neg sleeves I bought three years ago, but (and the point of this post) it seems to me over the years that the practical and commercial standard is six-frames per strip, not four, so that would be the preferred size to use for any storage I suppose. My K-M neg holders for scanning are certainly all six-frame, as well as all the archival products I have ever seen.
I would guess that the high-street outlets cut in fours, so that the film will go in the same envelope as a 6x4 print.
With the great quality of your pics, looking after the negs and keeping them flat is a very good idea
Like Vic says, after the first "library" or reference scan, you would probably then be selective about future hi-res scans, so a 1,6m roll would be a pain in the a%#$ when you only wanted a couple of negs at a time ?
I am still using a huge box of neg sleeves I bought three years ago, but (and the point of this post) it seems to me over the years that the practical and commercial standard is six-frames per strip, not four, so that would be the preferred size to use for any storage I suppose. My K-M neg holders for scanning are certainly all six-frame, as well as all the archival products I have ever seen.
I would guess that the high-street outlets cut in fours, so that the film will go in the same envelope as a 6x4 print.
With the great quality of your pics, looking after the negs and keeping them flat is a very good idea
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rich815
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I scan my whole rolls using Vuescan with my LS-4000 and roll film adapter at 2000-4000 dpi as best as "raw" as I can (flat scan, no clipping), then save the files as "Master" files (and dual back them up on an external USB-2 HDs). I then cut them into 6 frame strips and put them in Savage Film-Lok pages (Film-lok kicks butt over trying to slide the negs in, BTW). I figure if I'm going to need to go back and re-scan something it will not be the whole roll but just a frame here or there.
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